We know there has been a number of unsubstantiated cases. I have been going to the area for 10 years and have heard of just a handful of "maybe" cases. Has it gotten worse over the last few years? If so, why? Drugs, poverty, corruption, ......all the above? Planning a trip in Feb. Is it still relatively safe?
Info Daddy, This was almost a month ago. The law in Zipo is tribal in nature. We have all seen this play out before ... nothing new here. With out knowing ANY details I am fairly certain that this murder was carried out by one of the gangs of disaffected local youth. I say this because if it was performed by a single violent person without family or friends, the murder would have been reported sooner. I could be wrong but .. like I said we all know how things work in a small Mexican town. Who has anything to gain by "trolling for people'? Lots of Hugs Hope this helps
One of Puerto's younger businessmen in the Rinconada area knows who is the serial killer in Zipo. A long string of murders and rape's that ended near 1999. He recanted the stories of many murders by an individual, a loner that committed many murders that usually ended up in kidnapping, rape and dismemberment. One of the last were a boyfriend girlfriend couple, vry bad outcome. Most victims of whom were extranjeros and pretty women. This person holding the knowledge of these murders is a major schizophrenic. People who he told the stories to over several years think he is the murderer. This individual is fixated on zipolite and the locations that are tied to all the murders. He, actually used one picture of one of the islands as his facebook main image. The second he was questioned as why he used the picture in reference to his stories of the murders, he removed his facebook account in a couple hours. As he explained to several people is that the little black island he would swim to, naked. The evil spirits would tell him to murder. After he did the murder (s) he would swin to the "white" island next door and stay their as long as he could. He said the white island was the good island and would forgive him for the murders he committed. After murders he said the murderer would go up to the mountains and live for a couple months near a waterfall. He said his mother would bring up food to him. When he realized that no investigation were ever made into the murders he would return to zipo. Pretty twisted, but so is this individual. A few people knew of these stories, another ten years have passed with this person in Puerto, his property for sale and now he is not to be found. I have talked to families of some victims and some agencies (U.S.) but nothing has become of it. This man has been on the run for close to 20years from the U.S., confirmed by his family in ... Oregon. the question is, where is he going next?
No I doubt it, his family in Oregon made it clear that when he went on the run well over a decade ago he was wanted for various crimes. I can show you the email. Any families concerned about any of the brutal rape killings and some that included dismemberments can contact me. these happened to be almost all foreigners with light skin and before 1998. This individual I speak of above states he knows who did it and continued to be his associate for many years. This individual personally stated information to various persons in the area about the deaths and his information was repeated. Too much information for anyone not involved to even know about. To detailed, twisted..... this individual IS very upset this information is being published and he threatens me on this site constantly....... right Froggy? He still visits the area, wated in the U.S. and has major social dysfuntions. However if an investigator from the U.S., a real one not some fiction one that lurks these forums cares to contact me via a federal agency I would be glad to fill them in on the sick information this individual has told a few people. Not the kind of stuff you tell anyone and then think anyone would want to even be in the same town with.
I knew a crazy gringo from there....naked all the time. Daniel....or Surfer Dan, as he was called in the late 70's. He told me he cured his malaria using the electricity in the fish....? He used to live in back of Glorias, and was a fisherman. He had a burlap bag stuffed with 2 liter bottles that he used as a float to get him to his islands. I heard he got run out of Zipo after 20 years, but he returned.....He didn't seem the murdering type, but he sure was crazy.
The families of a string of murder victims (individuals and couples) of sexual crimes before 1999 can have their respective countries police agency contact me. I will not respond to individual contacts or Mexican based contacts. I was as others have been approached by an individual for years who claims to be involved with the murders, intimately knows who did them and about various cases, locations ect.
Danny was my neighbor for several years in Zipol, and while yes, he suffered from unstable moments when very drunk and smoked up, he was a kind and gentle soul who would help anyone. He never stole, and certainlyl would not be killing except for the sea creatures he ate, shared with others, and sold for his metzcal. I can also say that he never disappeared for hours, much less days or months. He lost what ever few papers he had in a fire, and received some help from the U.S. consolate to go up to the states, to be with family from what I heard. I saw him on his way to Oaxaca City onhis way out, riding with an Irish couple in a van. If you tell me that an Irish couple was found dismembered in the mountains around 2000 I will reevalluate if you have proof. I may be off by a year or so/I'm not the best with dates, but I don't think it could have been before 2000 when I lost saw Diver Danny. I miss eating his fresh seafood. If you happen uppon this, Danny, this is Burt. Lucio Felix and the boys were fine last I saw them...may go down there in a couple months.
It was told to me that Danny was murdered by local/s many years ago...........Danny a number 9 was what he said....He was a street from the San Diego and early on had a Russian girl friend and baby and a 15 ft surf board living on a rock and a hard spot....Diver Dan the best friend a man could have.... He would keep you alive from the free things out in the ocean... Many memories,many happy times. One morning there was some garbage out back and I just kicked it and lo and behold Danny was sleeping under it! I gave him many things but he aways gave me more! Loved that guy!
OffTheRadar Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I knew a crazy gringo from there....naked all the > time. Daniel....or Surfer Dan, as he was called in > the late 70's. He told me he cured his malaria > using the electricity in the fish....? He used to > live in back of Glorias, and was a fisherman. He > had a burlap bag stuffed with 2 liter bottles that > he used as a float to get him to his islands. I > heard he got run out of Zipo after 20 years, but > he returned.....He didn't seem the murdering type, > but he sure was crazy. I knew Diver Dan and we bought fish from him as he passed through Shambhala in the mornings. I listened to his rants and considered him harmless. He loved his grandulated sugar and pot and was physically fit like Posidon. Bless the beasts and the children. The saga of Zipolite continues down the path of enlightenment. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/24/2012 09:56AM by cepulihtoa.
i'll echo unoboca & burt daniel was humble and meek, incapable of atrocity when the throng pressed forward and mob-like, daniel would back away, rather than fight for his rightful posistion thus ensuring we would not get our bus tickets that Christmas day so we took a taxi for the 10 hour trip (quite a few pesos as i recall) but that was money well spent, because over a decade later, i remember that lesson in humbleness one more for Daniel, he would say, 'you know the Bible, it is in your heart, don't study so much, meditate on it (live it)' sage words indeed i hope unoboca is incorrect about his fate he did not deserve that "i just wanted to say goodnight, and give Chief a hug, then he bit me." Daniel M. winner of ribbons and trophies Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/18/2013 11:49AM by the wind up north.
Derek Johnson, I do not know all the history that many do on this forum but myself and my wife have been going to Zipo beach for 5 years now and about 4-5 days a week over the last 2 winters. We feel safe and love the beach, restaurants and people. I hope you returned in 2010 and have continued to return since then. Cheers, Brent
you may be more right than you know dan came up in conversation the other day with a home builder i had mentioned the tree of infinity and he was curious where this phrase came from (this was daniel's colloquialism for the tree of life in the garden) which of course led to a little history of diver dan and what made him unique (like the rest of us!)
Danny always talked about this "tree". That is this "particular tree" of "infinity" or to say " The Tree of Life" "To Live Forever" and the other tree of "the tree of knowledge of good and bad" Up to that point everything was "good" it was "very good"....... Do to eating of the fruit from the tree of "the knowledge of good and bad" came the repercussions of death that lead us to this condition....to all....Danny was right...... He had a barrel of bibles.
Pity none of you posters on this thread have the slightest idea what Zipolite is like right now. You'd sure leave scare posts like this listing of very old mierda out of the conversation. Zipolite has re-habbed - especially the Roca Blanca end. From the Italian cuisine at Don Francos to the gourmet offerings at El Alquimisto to the seafood at Piedra del Fuego, yo'd find the cuisine hard to beat anywhere on the Mexican Pacific. And on both sides of the main drag on Roca Blanca, the accommodations are damned near up-scale. But y'all keep dwelling on 30 year old horror stories if it makes you happy... Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
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