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http://www.imagivity.com/webcove/zipolite/sham.htm
And I have a site for Zipolite
http://www.imagivity.com/webcove/zipolite/index.htm
As well as lots of photos of Zipolite Sunrises in the Mexico Gallery
http://www.imagivity.com/webcove/gallery/gall26.htm
I hope you will pass this info along as I think the photos will bring people a lot of enjoyment and memories.
Tina Winterlik
twinterlik@telus.net
http://www.imagivity.com
tina_winterlik@hotmail.com
December 2000
Favorite restaurants: El Tres De Deciembre, El eclipse
I still perform music here in Montreal. One of my last compositions is entitled ''La Plage Des Morts'' A.K.A Zipolite. I love to share this song with an audience because I know someone is sitting there relating to my experience as it is a very haunting one. I am completely possessed by the magic of these Mayan grounds. I wish to share the lyrics with those of you who relate. I hope you understand French.
LA PLAGE DES MORTS
Je reve du voyage, qui n'est plus.
Cette eternel liberte, que j'ai trouver.
La mer assourdissante de sa puissance,
Les femmes venue, parti avec jouissance.
Je te vois clairement dans mes pensees,
Ma mer, ma vie, mon charm, Zipolite.
Seductrice de tout dans mes pensees,
Un fils pour toujours, tu m'a laisser.
Amo el canto del zenzontle
Pajaro de quatrocientos voces
Amo el color del jade
Y el enervante perfume de las flores
Pero amo mas a mi hermano el hombre
Tel la nuit qui m'emerveille
Le scorpion amoureux de l'abeille,
Cherche a parler de son poeme.
Sous les etoiles, on se devore ma belle.
Soudainement tu es calme et je me mefie,
Ton energie boulversante, pur magie.
Te me piege dans douce amour,
Et me garde en trance pour toujours.
Zipolite, La plage des morts.
Guy lacroix
godbwa@yahoo.ca
December 2000
So it was in about 1985 (when I was only 44 years old). As I was then, I still am an Instructor of Psychology here at Wharton County Junior College in Wharton, Texas. When I traveled down there that summer, just as a two day side trip, from a two week trip to Mexico (a fellow traveler on a second class bus had mentioned, a few days earlier, how that was such a unique and beautiful, as well as, very cheap place to stay/at the time it was only 60cents/night!).
That evening as I was sitting on the patio overlooking the absolutely beautiful ocean, beach, and surf I was thinking to myself how "this place" must be a heaven on earth. Just before I went "to bed" that night, in a hammock of course (as I indicated it was only 60 cents a night to stay there), I had heard an Indian playing a flute for perhaps an hour or so, somewhere perhaps about three or four hundred yards down the beach from "The Hotel" (the hotel consisted of tree stump supports for the ceiling and the roof was made of palm leaves, etc.). Then a little later I went "to bed," in the hammock, of course, which was only one of a row of about 10 hammocks. Later that night, at about 2:00 AM, I heard some kind of "chopping" sound nearby. I couldn't figure out what it was. I remember thinking, to myself, why would anyone be chopping firewood in the middle of the night? Then, a few minutes later, I saw someone approaching the row of hammocks. They (there were two of them) came right up to my hammock! One of them bent over me with his long black hair dangling in my face. I was pretty confused as to what was going on and, quite certainly, a bit frightened.
At that point I yelled, very loudly, "What the hell are you doing?" The two Indians jumped back, and each of them raised their large machetes as if readying themselves to slice through my body! Well, many thoughts went through my head, and, believe me, and can, very clearly, remember every single one of them! And in this exact order------"So, it looks like this is how I am going to die." Then---"I'm not dead yet, so I'd better get out of here!" Then, I somehow made some kind of "rather perfect" leap out of the hammock, and yet, out of necessity, toward the two Indians, hoping that they would not thrust their machetes into my body! I then ran (I guess somewhat like a scared rabbit) directly into one of the tree-like supports holding up the roof. But you know what, it didn't even hurt (I guess that that was something like when I played football in high school; in the heat of the game you don't feel any pain when getting hit!)! So I got up (hoping that I would not feel the blade of one of those machetes piercing my shoulder) and made my escape into the forest. Well, somehow I made it out alive!
The next morning, in my own somewhat broken Spanish, I asked the Indians, running the place there, to help me understand how to explain what had happened some hours earlier. They told me that the two Indians (a young man and his Indian girlfriend) were actually drunk and had decided to come up there "to kill an American!". And, as for the chopping sound that I had heard earlier, well, that was the sound of the two drunken Indians chopping there machetes into a new car that a Mexican (he was a male model from Mexico City and, I think "gay") had driven there. And the next morning when he saw his car, was he pissed! There were, as I remember, about 15 gashes a half an inch deep in his "brand new car." The Indians must have thought that it was the so-called "Rich Americano's" car. Actually, I was traveling with only a pack on my back.
As it turned out, that place wasn't exactly "a heaven on earth". I left about an hour later in order to continue my trip to other and hopefully "safer" places in Mexico.
So now I have a few questions to ask you. Questions that have lingered in my mind for the past 15 years, and perhaps you just might know the answers to some of them--and perhaps not.
1. While there I kind of got the idea that the place was a homosexual hang-out. I remember seeing a couple of fellows together in one of the little rooms perhaps doing some rather "different things" together. And then there was the male model from Mexico City. And also, I later heard that the beach there was perhaps known as a "nude beach for gays?" Was this true?
2. Also, I heard that the place was actually owned by a lady from San Francisco, CA.?
3. There were, as I remember, a whole lot of Zodiac-like signs and symbols around? Is that true and what did that mean? Not that I think that that is bad (I don't), but I am just trying to figure out what kind of a place that I was at. And, perhaps, if and how "these things" and "the Indians there" may have somehow been related to that really rather frightening experience that I had there that night.
I guess that you might think that this is a rather strange letter/e-mail, but it is an absolutely true story that I felt that you, as the new occupant there, just might find rather interesting.
When you get a chance, I sure would like to hear from you--to get your response to my rather strange experience at Zipolite, and perhaps to answer some of my questions.
Doug Soderstrom, PhD
dougsoderstrom@yahoo.com
December 2000
When posting the "story" about my experience in Zipolite, please add this: "That I do not, at all, feel badly about the place there. In fact, what happened there that night has turned out to be one of the more exciting experiences of my life. Now that I know that Gloria is such a fine (truly a neat) lady, I can't wait to bring my 26 year old son with me back to Zipolite one of these days so we can both meet her. But from what I have read, it is not the same wonderfully rustic place that it was when I was there back in about 1985 (too much modern development, etc.). Anyway, if you (Gloria ) eventually get this message, I am looking forward to meeting you sometime, perhaps, in a couple of years. And the very best to you in rebuilding your place since the hurricane. Thanks, - Doug Soderstrom
Yann Bellec
camping.les.mouettes@wanadoo.fr
December 2000
Hello I've been at Zipolite many times, I were there from november 15th to 21th (2000) with 3 friends, we enjoyed this beach very much, MAZUNTE It's the best place to stay.
TOM: I think your page is wonderful, I don´t know if you are Mexican, but if you aren't I have to say you thank you for this page, It's really great. I'm Mexican and your page was excellent help for our travel, We made reservation in POSADA ALTAMIRA because It used to be full all time (this one wasn't the exception, people from France, Italy, Germany and USA), I think I saw more foreigners than mexicans. ZIPOLITE was like always, the sun, the sand, the sea as cool as the others times I went, but Incredibly there were many families with young sons (In a Nudist Beach!) However I met people from all over the world. I wondered how do the foreigners know about those far away beaches, I think is your fault, THANKS AGAIN.
GIL.
P.S. I will go there in July or August 2001, Does someone want to live the experience? Write me as soon as possible.
Si tu veux aller à Zipolite l'anne prochaine avec moi, email-moi.
Voy a ir a ZIPO el año que viene, si alguien quiere irse a la aventura conmigo queda cordialmente invitado
email: mxxxboy@yahoo.com
with/avec/con: Gil Ramírez
BYE/AUREVOIR/HASTA LUEGO
December 2000
Specifically, I am interested in visiting Mazunte and Zipolite. Actually, I hope I can be there next January and stay in one of those cabañas of Cabañas Yuri. Someone told me that I have to make a reservation or pay in advance, because the cabañas are usually full in those days.
By any chance, do you have the phone, mail or any idea of how can I contact the owner of Cabañas Yuri?
Rocío
rociofj@yahoo.com
December 2000
No, but maybe the readers can help us. -Tom
Of course, as Shambhala veterans all know, the best thing of all about the place is Gloria herself, the Grand Dame of Zipolite, who came to the virgin beach in '70 and started Shambhala as a remote communal Buddhist outpost for spiritual seekers...the same vibe that still pervades today. Catch Gloria down in the restaurant when she's not fussing with the parrots, and with very little prodding, she'll get out the old photo albums and launch into the amazing saga of Shambhala, her Vision, and the 30 year progression of Zipolite from a couple of fishermans' shacks to the anarchistic sprawl of international, nudist, dope smoking, slacker/hippy/backpackers it is today. Gloria's always meant for Shambhala to be far more than just a funky beach hotel, and that's what makes the place special, she really cares about the folks who visit, and views them not as customers, or even guests, but more as friends and family. It that Vision thing, you see..
Keep up the fine work and I'll see you out there on the beach!
Muchos Saludos
Sean Pogue
pogue@frognet.net
PS When you swim on the west end of Zipolite, watch out for the rip tide that runs along the rocks right next to shambhala...dangerous! Ask anyone working there to point it out to you, and show you the safe places to swim.
Daniela de Uruguay
danderi@hotmail.com
November 2000
I will be returning to Zipolite to write my Master's Thesis and hope to be able to give something back to the community that gave me a new outlook and second chance on life. I found Zipolite by accident while running away from a nasty divorce, evidence again of the karmic cycle. The people I have met there are as fresh in my thoughts and heart as the days I was there. I can hear the surf crashing against the rocks, and I still see the flask of green as the sun sets deep to the west. The smell of fresh fish grilling and beans cooking drifting across the beach as fires spring to life against the dark. The drums beat in time with the heartbeat, and something magical happens that only one who has been there can understand.
If anyone knows "Carlos" or Charles, Paladin of Tropical Beaches, who lives there most of the winter, tell him Douglas says hello and to email me. Viva Zapatistas! and save an hamaca for me... I'll be back soon...
W. Douglas Thorpe
oceandreemer@yahoo.com
November 2000
Hi Tom: As the comments I had seen in your webpage, I must congratulate you for such well work. I was doubting of which beach I will stay in the next holidays I'm planning to do next first days of January, finally thanks of the information you show on the web I have decide for Zipolite. I would like to ask you how I can communicate with Hotel Lola's or the Cosmico, if they have enough place or if I have to reserve, and also the price of their accommodations.
Thanks for your help
Ana Laura Sánchez.
ana_laurasanchez@hotmail.com
November 2000
I don't know how to contact them. I understand that Zipolite has telephones now, but until someone tells me the numbers, I cannot provide them. -Tom tom@tomzap.com
I just returned from Lo Cosmico. Antonio, the owner, says there is no telephone, fax or e-mail whatsoever. Just show up and hope there is a room. -Richard Ball, richardball@webtv.net.
It would be for me and my husband (we're middle-aged -- but have lived in separate cities for the past 6 months -- so romantic is good). We like to read and swim and eat really good food. Other than that, we are not fussy. Would prefer something with cooking facilities -- several rooms would be great but not necessary.
meiklejohn@ppic.org
October 2000
leahkee@yahoo.com
October 2000
I am visiting Mexico for the first half of next year and I am after information regarding the renting of accommodation on a monthly basis in areas surrounding Puerto Escondido and Zipolite. My budget will be up to US$200 per month.
Wesley James
wesolegend@hotmail.com
October 2000
Dear Wes, Ever since your email first appeared regarding a 200usd monthly rental budget, I've been waiting for someone else to write with the bad news. Since noone has, I guess I'll have to break it to you. That accommodation budget might have sufficed a decade or two ago, but not now. At best, it might get you a shared bath room in a palapa on Zipolite, but even the Casas de Huespedes are going to be more than that in Puerto Angel, forget Huatulco. I hope that budget was room only and not food too, or you'd best be looking for a hammock to rent under a palapa roof. Inflation...-John M. Williams, sharkbait69@yahoo.com
Darrell
pare@intergate.bc.ca
October 2000
Darrell, Forget 'em both. You might get a chilly night in Zijuatenejo. The Oaxacan coast is prettier and friendlier. Go with Zipolite/Mazunte. -John M. Williams, sharkbait69@yahoo.com
We just returned from revisiting the places of his birth and early infancy, and he expressed interest in purchasing property in Zipolite. How can we find out about prices, availability, etc??? Do you know any real estate people working there? Or have you heard of anything for sale?
Catherine Stone
psyche13@jps.net
October 2000
Arlene and Derald
aklapati@goldcity.net
October 2000
Jeff and Ana
tierrapin@hotmail.com
October 2000
Bill Barker
bbilredbar@email.msn.com
October 2000
I hope to return to Mexico soon, and maybe take in the rest of Central America too. For now, my memories and photographs, as well as your website will have to do!
Andrew Ellis
aellis80@hotmail.com
September 2000
I am visiting Mexico for the first half of next year and I am after information regarding the renting of accommodation on a monthly basis in areas surrounding Puerto Escondido and Zipolite. My budget will be up to US$200 per month.
Jon Hassett
jhassett@chestsouth.com.au
September 2000
June
Junequinn2@aol.com
September 21, 2000
Thank you so much for your quick response to my call regarding my son Travis. He contacted me early this morning. 9/22/00 -June
Bruce Conrad
baconrad@mindspring.com
September 2000
Anyone have any advice on new places to go that capture the beauty and human spirit I found in Oaxaca? Low cost, few tourist, and a place to hang my hammock are all I really seek, and a little human spirit never hurts. I'm looking into Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, and other spots in Mexico. Any Advice from recent travelers would be much appreciated. I'm planning on going for at least four months, so I'll have plenty of time to return to Zipo and give thanks for awakening this spirit. My love to Karen, Isabel, Mabooba, Candice and Charity. Keep on living the sweet life.
Terry Malloy
malloyterry@hotmail.com
September 2000
Audiobook: Out of the Blue
Dear Tom: I writing to let you know that my audiobook, Out of the Blue, based on my experiences at Zipolite and Pina Palmera during my research around the time of Hurricane Paulina is now available at www.mp3.com/davidkendallgrant/. 50% of CD sales royalties on the website will go to Piña Pamera. Episode 17, the climactic hurricane scene is number three on the MP3 audiobook chart. I hope you will put a link on your site so that people can take advantage of this opportunity to be entertained and support Pina Palmera.
David Kendall Grant M.S.Ed., Ph.D.
dgrant@sowega.net
www.mp3.com/davidkendallgrant/
August 2000
See David's Visitor's Comment at the time of Hurricane Paulina. -Tom
Tina
Tina.Siebenmann@mediacom.de
August 2000
I don't know about that place. If it is in Zipolite then it may not have a telephone. Maybe someone else can help. -Tom
Last time I saw him he was visiting puerto escondido where he has a house. I was also living there but have since returned to Toronto,so i have no way of contacting him. I'd love any info,i am a little worried.
amerrilees@hotmail.com
August 2000
Michael and Kate Kelley
beachkak@adsnet.com
August 2000
So now I am. Are you actually in Mexico, and/or can you get a message to Gloria or know of someway for me to get a message to her? I'm going to send her a letter explaining what I am doing but since I am starting this project and it is supposed to be done by Aug 16/2000, I was wondering if there's anyway to get a message to her, for her to send some info through email to me. I have an old brochure, but I want to know if she wants something updated or a special message. It would be great to get a list of the names of the restaurants and hotels on the beach. I know some, but some confirmation would be better. I have a web site presently on yahoo, but that is all changing very shortly, and I am putting up a much more extensive site
http://www.geocities.com/tina_winterlik
Tina Winterlik
tina_winterlik@hotmail.com
twinterlik@telus.net
July 2000
I don't know how to contact Gloria. -Tom
My wife and I stayed at Brisa Marina for semana santa this year. The rooms were great, and everyone seemed very hospitable.
Shawn Gibbons
gibbones@hotmail.com
Aliso Viejo, CA
June 2000
Indiana Jim
marbleloco@netscape.net
June 2000
Anybody know this? - Tom   tom@tomzap.com
I felt very comfortable and free while I was in Zipolite. The laid back lifestyle, the fresh fish, the interesting people from all over the world were only a few of the wonderful things I experienced while I was there. I loved laying in my hammock at night watching the lightening show over the ocean. It was unlike anything I've seen before or since. Ahhh, the memories....
Anyway, I do have a question. While I was there I went to a place at the (I think) north end of the beach. It had little huts on the side of the hill. At this place was a meditation point that I heard was one of the main meditation points in the world. Is this true, and what is the name of it?
I am sorry that I can't tell you about the two places I stayed while I was there, it was too long ago. I am very happy to see this site and thank you for your time, maybe I'll see you in Zipolite!
Mahalo Nui Loa et A Hui Hou!
Kristen Bozeman
krisb7777@aol.com
June 2000
Cool story. I believe the place you are talking about is Glorias. -Tom
Jennifer Stuart
Vancouver Island, Canada
jenniferstuart@hotmail.com
June 2000
Telephones are new in Zipolite. I don't know if those places have telephones yet. -Tom
Being Mexican never had a chance to visit, now, while living in the US think that might have been a mistake.
In any case, I'm looking for Pablo Lozano, I know he is at Lyoban resort, we both left Mexico City at about the same time, he went to Zipolite and I came to the US, and I lost his e-mail address and changed mine because of my moving. So I've lost contact with a very dear friend of mine. If you happen to know him, could you please pass this message along to him?
Thank you very much for your very warm page and your help.
Enrique M. Flores
ilya_33131@yahoo.com
June 2000
Maricarmen Arjona
marjona@igc.org
mariarjona@yahoo.com (después de 17 de Junio)
June 2000
All this for $400 a week. We spent a week there in May and had a difficult time coming back!
The house is in a neighborhood off the main road, so it's best to have private transportation. We managed without, by walking to the main road (10 min) and catching cabs or colectivos to either town or Zipolite. Or you can just walk the whole distance, of course.
Highly wonderful. Go to the website at http://www.puertoangel.net/
Stefan Frazier
stefann@sfsu.edu
June 2000
A Telephone at Last
Another part of civilization has arrived. Yesterday the Mexican telephone-company installed a phone in our office at Piña Palmera. Our number is +52-958-43147. This will save us a lot of time as we always have had to go to Puerto Angel to make phone-calls. Next week we will also have a fax at the same number. (We will solicit another line for the fax.) We are all doing fine. The first rains are arriving finally and next Tuesday meeting we will form this season's emergency committee. (Hopefully they will have nothing to do...)
Anna Johansson de Cano
"Piña Palmera" A.C.
pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
May 2000
Gracias a todos y un saludo enorme a Zipolite ya que la pase bárbaro. Despues continue mi viaje hasta Houston, Texas, y de ahí nuevamente a Los Angeles donde tome el avión a Buenos Aires. Quiero decir que Mexico es espectacular pero todo fue un antes y despues de Zipolite.
Juan B.
panza4@hotmail.com
May 2000
Looking for Sean Pogue   FOUND
We are looking for my brother, Sean Pogue. I know he was working in a small hotel in Zipolite around August of 1999. In January he went to Xela, Guatemala and took some language classes. His last correspondence to my father was dated February 11th and he said he wanted to head back to Zipolite and work for a few weeks before returning home on the 18th of April. He called my mother on April 4th and said his flight was booked for the 18th and that he would not have a lot of Internet access until then. He was back in Zipolite working in the small hotel on the beach. He mentioned that this one had a bar made out of driftwood. He said he was cooking food for the staff and cleaning. No one has heard from him since. He mentioned Puerto Escondido as another possibility.
He is 33 and from Athens, Ohio. He is about 6 feet tall and dark blonde hair. His hair style changes often. He plays the banjo and is very intelligent.
Thank you for any help you can give us, our family is really starting to worry.
Michelle
michelle.plaisance@atcmail.com
May 2000
Someone saw this post and contacted Sean, who emailed his sister. Thanks. - Tom
The Posada Brias Marina is also very nice, but the room and furniture are made of plain wood, with a wood floor, and the balcony is shared with three other rooms, but the hammocks are included. Also, the owner Daniel, is American and speaks English. Both places offer the good oceanview rooms for $20.00 US a night, cabanas at $6.00US, and a hammock for $1.50 per night.
The Tao was still there at the end of March, and seemed to be doing a booming business. I did not get to check out the rooms, but from the outside the place looks very nice. They also put on a buffet a few nights, with a choice of entree for $5.00 (their camarones are delicious) that includes all the beans rice and salads you can eat.
Chris Farquhar
nptravelcorp@home.com
Naked Planet Travel
nptravelcorp@home.com
May 2000
Bill Barker
BBilredbar@aol.com
May 2000
I always stay at Lola's, at the Playa d'Amour end of the beach. The rooms have running water, are clean and cleaned daily. In April, I negotiated my room with private bathroom and balcony at 750 peso's for the week. Their restaurant serves good food and at reasonable prices. One day for lunch, I ordered Sopa Pescado (fish soup) and my waiter was somewhat surprised at this "gringo's" choice. It was a bowl of broth in which floated a cooked fish, complete with head, eyes, fins and scales. A knife was provided for "in-bowl" filleting. I think it was eight peso's for the soup.
To travel there, I get "air only" from a Toronto charter company, to Huatulco, then walk down to the highway and get a bus to Pochutla. Then another bus to Zipolite.
At least once during the week I'm there, I take a collecto cab to Puerto Angel, where I have a wonderful dinner at the Bueno Vista Hotel. A large marguerita, three course dinner, glass of wine and the obligatory Kahlua is about $20. CDN. which is about $14 U.S. at this time. I'm a naturist and nudity is common at both ends of the beach, somewhat sparse in between.
As previous comments indicate, NEVER even consider drug dealing; it's watched very carefully by the local police. Last year there was a money exchange on the road behind the beach, this year it's not there; neither is there a money exchange in Puerto Angel. Pochutla has a couple of banks, even with ATM's, also one at the airport in Huatulco.
Do not expect any 3, 4 or 5 star accommodations in Zipolite. There is no hot water at any that I know of. The furnishings are ESA (early Salvation Army) and my balcony railing was broken, but was replaced by a single strand of string!
Nevertheless, Zipolite is still my little paradise, and continues to be very inexpensive. As previous people have said, the surf is extremely strong and riptides are common. If not a strong swimmer, do not venture out past your waist. Feel free to email me for any questions and I'll be glad to answer as best as I can.
Chris Fearon (Mr)
chris.fearon@sympatico.ca
May 2000
Jeff Rickard
jrickar@comp.uark.edu
1219 N. Storer Apt. 65
Fayetteville, AR 72703
April 2000
Tomaso Gobbi
gubash@freesurf.ch
April 2000
Mireya Escalante
mireya@dsi.com.mx
April 2000
Hola soy karla!!....en Diciembre del 99 fue la segunda vez que fui a Zipolite y la neta, mi opinion no ha cambiado para nada, ese lugar es la ley!!, el mar, los paisajes, todo! Esta super chido...lo chido tambien es que puedes conocer gente de todas partes, osea que hay un intercambio cultural cañon!...las dos veces que he ido me he quedado en "le castelet", esta super bien, las cabañas la neta no son caras, ademas de que estan super limpias el restaurant la verdad para lo que esta en el menu esta muy barato a comparacion de otros lugares en donde te saldria un ojo de la cara comer un platillo Frances, y para la cafeteria lo mismo, le castelet esta en roca blanca y puedes llegar en taxi desde Pochutla, esta bien cerca de la puesta que es la disco y esta en la segunda calle, no esta frente al mar, pero aun asi esta chido...si eres mujer y vas por primera vez no te asustes si el teporochito de zipolite "coco" te empieza a seguir, simplemente asustalo y se va , pero de todos modos ten cuidado por que igual y te agarra jeje... Si eres de los tipicos que van a acapulco o a can-cun y quieres ir a Zipolite, open your mind por que si no estas jodido ah y tampoco esperes encontrar grandes discos ni nada por que zipolite por eso esta chido (aun) !!!....por favor!!! No se confien y no dejen sus cosas en cualquier lugar por que cuando menos se lo esperen pueden desaparecer, lo he visto muchas veces y esta cañon por que muchas veces ahi tienen pasaporte etc...!!!!....el 31 de diciembre fui a la ceremonia de año nuevo en el shambala y fue algo muy muy lindo!! Nunca voy a olvidar ese dia fue bien chido!!!...Por favor no te quieras creer el mejor nadador(a) ni nada por el estilo, asi que mejor ten muchisimo respeto con el mar, por que ahi hasta un master-nadador puede morir si no se cuida, la corrientes son muy fuertes y vienen de todas partes, asi que es mejor que no te metas mucho, en caso de que te jale la ola y no puedas regresar ¡¡ni lo intentes!! por que es peor lo que debes de hacer es quedarte detras de las olas y flotar hasta que te rescaten los salvavidas ( si te ven... sino pues a rezar !!)....lo chingon igual es que en la noche te puedes ir a cualquiera de las fogatas y estar ahi escuchando a los chavos que tocan los tambores o igual y te pones a tocar o a bailar, asi que aunque no conoscas a nadie en la fogata, no importa solo acercate... bueno es todo lo que yo puedo contar de zipol, no se pueden perder este lugar! es lo mejor !......Un gran saludo a bernardo el duéño de le castelet( que onda bert!!! una lana no??), un saludo igual a gungu ( a ver si ves mi mensaje), y al alejandro (que quien sabe en donde anda), Julien si ves esto ecris-moi!!!.......adioss!!! y vayan a zipolite la neta no se van a arrepentir!
Karla.
laura@sureste.com
April 2000
Julia Evans
England
jevans@ordsvy.gov.uk
March 2000
When it was time to go Hubert offered us a ride to La Crucecita to a place his friend owned for our last night. It was hotel Las Palmas and his friend and owner was a gentleman by the name Willem or Memo. Well this guy knows everybody and everything. Deluxe rooms-hot water-air cond. and even toilet seats. The restaurant rivals some of the best I've seen in Chicago for quality and service. Again Willem knows where everything is and speaks perfect English. Took Dave and I another 5 days to leave this party. This is a must for anyone looking to stay away from the ugly Americans at the large resorts. p.s. the women are still fine in Zipolite but so are the thieves.
Also beat the large Mexican school teacher arm wrestling at Shandors palapa 3 times. Thanks for the web site.
phil(hoss)chicago
PSFLEETMAN@aol.com
March 2000
Reservations are recommended during Easter holidays, but I don't know how to do it in Zipolite. - Tom
We've just returned from a couple of weeks at Mario Corella's place in Mazunte. We took a boat ride out from San Agustinillo and saw a bird that does not occur on his list--a Red-billed Tropicbird. These are usually nowhere close to land, but it was right by the big guano-covered rock out in the ocean just West of Zipolite. We thought he might be interested in hearing about it. I don't know if he considers that close enough to the Puerto Escondido area to include, but he might.
By the way, the Mole web page has moved. Its new URL is http://www.ramekins.com/mole/molehome.html
Tess Ewing & Louise Rice
ricewing@worldnet.att.net
March 2000
Lesley Hyatt
lahyatt33@yahoo.com
February 2000
Thanks Tom! In fact, this morning I received an e-mail from them--Richard saw the posting on your site. Superrapido. Muchisimas gracias. Lesley
Particulars on travel: Matamoros to Puebla - ADO (Not GL) - $422 pesos Departed 7:45 PM on 12/25, Arrived 1:00 PM on 12/26 No tickets were available to Pochutla on any bus lines due to heavy holiday traffic. Had to take my chances. Puebla to Oaxaca - ADO-GL - $185 pesos Departed 8:00 AM on 12/27, Arrived 1:00 PM on 12/27 Again, there were no tickets available to Pochutla. Had to change bus stations, took a taxi to Central Bus Station across from the Mercado de Abastos. $60 pesos. At central station, I purchased a ticket to Pochutla on Oaxaca Pacifica, direct, 2nd or 3rd class, $69 pesos. Departed 2:15 PM on 12/27, Arrived 10:00 PM on 12/27. The bus had mechanical problems and probably delayed our trip by a couple of hours but the bus driver/mechanic finally got us to our destination. I was picked up by family and drove to Zipolite by car. We drove by car back to Puebla. I took the same bus back to Matamoros ADO, $422 pesos, departed at 10:55 AM on 1/07, arrived at 6:00 AM on 1/08. The trip took longer than normal due to Federales stopping all traffic from Tampico to the border.
ADO is a good bus line, inexpensive and comfortable although a little crowded. The drivers are very experienced and give passengers plenty of time for the restroom and eating stops. I found them friendly and helpful. The ADO GL is top of the line and I will probably take this one the next time I travel to Mexico. There is twice as much room with only 20-25 seats and a nice coffee bar and clean restroom. Prices are higher for the GL and only selected routes available. The roads were all in great shape, only a few bad spots on the way to Pochutla due to the earthquake. We had heard though that the road to Puerto Escondido was badly damaged.
Mazunte was crowded but not too bad. The work at Ventanilla is progressing very rapidly and the swamp is well on its way to recovery. The liberation of the baby turtles at sunset is a site to behold, be sure to check it out! The people of this community have worked many long hours to revive the trees and animal life that were devasted by Pauline in 97, a true labor of love.
I miss my new friends very much and I am counting the days until I return in December. If any readers are heading to Zipolite between now and December, please pass on a message to Giorgio who resides at Dario's place. Please tell him photos will be on the way soon and to take good care of his arm so he can make a speedy recovery.
Again, thanks for the website Tom and thank you for the opportunity to tell the world of the closest place to Paradise I have ever found on this planet Earth!
Until December........
Deborah Hinojosa
Houston, TX
monjusi@att.net
January 2000
The place pictured in the "Name this Place" note from Stephen Blutter is Roca Blanca. Not sure if they have phone service for reservations or not.
Also, I agree completely with the advice you gave Keith in the Young Crowd? note - I will be 40 this March and will continue to visit and enjoy Zipolite.
Marco Wageman
Rochester, Minnesota
mwageman@mayo.edu
January 2000
I then went to look for a bus. There are two terminals in Acapulco, one just north of Parque Papagayo and one N of the Zócalo on Avenida Ejido (Estrella Blanca). The Ejido station has the ONLY buses heading to Escondido or Pochutla. They leave at 3:30 AM! Buy your tickets in advance for $189 Pesos ($21). This is for an 8-9 hour 1st class "semi-directo" bus. It is an older bus with no toilet and stops at a few towns to pick up passengers but there will be no food break or bathroom break unless you ask, and then be quick. Going back west from Pochutla there are five of the same buses going to Acapulco daily and for the same price (there are other "ordinario" second class busses also; not recommended unless you are broke).
Contrary to what the map says this is not a scenic trip, a night journey is best and seemed to be safe and secure. The 1st class semi-directo leaves daily at 6AM, 10AM, 3PM, 7PM, and 10PM. The road west of Escondido is rough for about 100K. You can go to Oaxaca and other points from Pochutla and Escondido. There is a daily bus from Oaxaca to Puerto Angel that arrives and leaves at around 9-10 PM. This rough, winding but scenic route is still quite popular and I heard no bad comments about it. There were quite a few travelers in PA for the New Year and also at playas Zipolite, San Augustinillo, and Mazunte. The Mazunte turtle museum charges $P30 and is a nice tour. The laguna tour further west at playa Ventanilla is $P20 and quite pleasant; be sure to make time to walk this endless stretch of deserted beach. You can get there and back by cab at great expense ($10-15US from PA or Zipolite) but it is a long way and they will pick you up again at a designated time. Besides taxis most travelers use the pick-up truck "collectivos" which will get you from beach to beach ($P3) or beach to Pochutla ($P5) they can be quite crowded but are fun and efficient.
Zipolite is still alive and kicking. The New Year celebration was amazingly calm and well behaved. I saw fewer of the bothersome beach drunks and scarier/hairier ganga bums than in the past. The clientel seems to have gone upscale a notch but is still quite hip. There was not quite as much nudity as last year but thankfully it is still very much allowed. Rooms are becoming more plentiful from $10 and up $US. Hamaca spaces were $1.50-2.00 US per person. Tent space $4-5 US. These should be lower during the less popular times of the year. The vibes were very nice and the rumors I heard of crimes were few. Just use your head. Zipolite is still a beautiful and powerful beach that I would recommend to anyone who can let their hair down, get out of their clothes, watch the sun rise and then do nothing until its time to watch the sunset. If that sounds boring, please stay home.
We used cash machines and travelers checks in Pochutla with no problem. You can get by for $10-15 per day for food, maybe less if you cook your own. Sadly, beers are now about $1-1.25 US. Thanks for letting me post all this. Chao for now.
C-dog
dontfallonme@hotmail.com
January 2000
I had no complaints as far as the ocean. My friend had a problem but he just wigged out. It's all about staying cool and relaxed when times are tough. Study the water patters before you even wade out, 'cuase that's when it can really get to ya'. Also I found that at least in this time of the year (early Jan) there's like a low tide earlier in the day and you can go out far in ankle deep water. Oh and if you do decide to go out stay close to the surfers, they know what they are doing and they can help ya out if times get tough.
So anyone in southern Oaxaca can't turn down something as wonderful and beautiful as Zipolite; enjoy!
Stephan, el guero
chido@rocketmail.com
January 2000
If you were looking for a place where you can be free, not expending much money and also get some butt-tan , this is for you... This place breaks any concept you had of a beach vacation, if you're accustomed to stuff like like Acapulco or similar, this is different. At first I stayed at La Choza, a very nice place, and very cheap , but then I started wandering over and finally stayed on a humble but beautiful place in front of the beach where I met some friends living as a commune. It's a place full of strange characters, smiling and smoking as you pass through the town. Good music in every place, groovy decoration, nice weather (and girls of course), I mean I wanted to take photos every five minutes.
You can sit down at any fire that you see at night, hear some drums and meet people from around the world, leave your old concepts aside and have a taste of how really life is. I live in Mexico City selling oil paintings and artistic stuff, but I'm leaving everything for moving to Zipolite permanently to see what's up , I realized that I wasn't "living" in the city , and in Zipolite and Mazunte I had the best days of my life . If anyone was with me at the rave in Mazunte for new year ,or staying in La Choza those days , please write to me.
Gungu
gungu35@hotmail.com
January 2000
Bueno, antes de llegar a Oaxaca en la última caseta nos regalaron una especie de "pasaporte turístico" con anuncios de los hoteles y promociones, además de un planito de la ciudad indicando que los tiempos de recorrido a Puerto Angel y Puero Escondido eran de 5:30 horas respectivamente, esto posiblemente en Jet, pues salimos a las 10:00 de Oaxaca y llegamos a Puerto Escondido a las 18:30 más o menos. Pasamos a cenar al famoso "Capuchino", el cual no veía desde hacía más de 3 años; definitivamente ya no es lo que fue, es más, el área turística normal, el paseo de turista, los negocios a los lados y el ambiente ya tiende a pareceese al Puerto de Veracruz, huele mal y todo está carísimo.
A esto de las 20:00 salimos por la cerretera 200 rumbo a la Tierra Prometida, fueron los 70 kilómetros más largos de mi vida (y creo que la de los demás también), aquí hago un reconocimiento a mi amigo Jose Manuel Alvarado Kinell, pues SOLO manejó desde Tehuacán hasta Zipol, yo la verdad sincera me abrí por mi dolencia del oido que me tuvo levemente mareado.
Finalmente a las 21:00 arribamos a Zipol, llegamos a casa de Lino (Lola's) y ¿que creen?, resulta que no habían recibido mi carta y no habían reservado y... pues no había cuartos disponibles, así que, tratándo de no exaltarnos decidimos probar surte a ver si en La Choza había algo y si, efectivamente encontramos dos buenas habitaciones, la de $ 120.00 tenía 2 camas matrimoniales, WC con regadera, ventilador de techo, pabellones y mosquiteros, la de $100.00 exáctamente lo mismo pero solo una cama, así que ya Jose Manuel y yo no nos vimos en la penosa necesidad de dormir juntos otra vez, ya podía prestarse a habladas. El que estuvo felíz con una camota para el solito fue mi nene.
Bueno pues al día siguiente fue sesión de quema de nalgas, desnudos mi nene y yo jugueteamos en el mar, lo revolcaron las olas y creo que verdaderamente le gustó; le habíamos comprado una pala y cubeta, así que se dedicó a jugar con la arena, con Pepe, Alma y yo. Se rodaba por la pendiente hasta la playa después de decirnos "adios" a los tres. Cuando le preguntabamos si quería agua decía que no, que mejor una "chela chol" (cerveza Sol), así que de poquitos de habrá tomado como tres el solo.
Entablamos excelentes relaciones con Don Sergio, el propietario de La Choza, nos consiguó la cámara de uno de sus hijos para tomar las fotos que después les haré llegar; le dejé todo el material que he bajado de Internet sobre Zipolite, parte de la información de Tom Penick, mi anterior Website, comentarios de visitantes, mails y otras páginas, todas ellas excelentes para todo aquel que quiera enterarse de algo más lo haga, allí van también mis direcciones de e mail. Después me platicó que Anna Johansson ya había visto el material, lo malo fue que no me percaté y no pude hablar con ella para saludarla.
También fuimos a Gemini a comer Pizza, ya cambió de lugar, la propietaria nos platicó que cambió la casa por otra, no tenía servicio ni pensaba abrir debido a que su hija que la apoya no estaba, pero accedió a prepararnos, así que nos dimos un atracón con pizza "Fernando's" y "Zipolite", el nuevo local está frente al hotel elevado antes de la curva de la entrada a Piña Palmera.
En Zipol la comisa sigue excelente, "La Choza" continua con su magnífico restaurante, también comimos filete de atún con una amiga de la dueña de "Gemini", quien guisa a la leña.
Todas las cosas buenas se acaban y así se nos acabaron los dos días que habíamos destinado para Zipol, hicimos maletas la noche del Jueves 22 y el Viernes 23 a las 08:30 estabamos saliendo rumbo a Huatulco para regresar por el Istmo. La cerretera 200 sigue en buenas condiciones, el tramo entre Puerto Angel y la entrada al aeropuerto de Huatulco está un poco feo, pero después mejora bastante como para mantener una velocidad promedio de unos 90 Km/hr. Solo hay que tener cuidado con el ganado que se atraviesa la carretera, nos encontramos directamente con una recua de burros que obstinadamente se negaban a quitarse del camino.
Por la carretera 200 solo encontramos 1 retén militar, todo amabilidad el suboficial revisó parcamente nuestro equipaje y nos dejó pasar. De todas maneras nos detuvimos a tomar un refresco, ese momento fue aprovechado por Cuquín para maravillarse del "yifle" y el "caaco" de los "mushashos".
Desayunamos ligeramente en "El Oasis", en la Crucecita, sacamos dinero del Bancomer y continuamos hasta Salina Cruz, a donde llegamos sin novedad después de 2:30 horas, según nosotros para despedirnos del Pacífico pero... ¿que creen?, resulta que el H. Ayuntamiento de Salina Cruz traía pleito con sus trabajadores por cuestiones de los aguinaldos y a estos se les ocurrió la pe...regrina idea de cerrar las salidas al istmo. El bloqueo ya llevaba más de 24 horas en forma intermitente y hacía ya más de dos horas que definitivamente no dejaban pasar, así que ya se imaginarán la cola de traileros, autobuses y demás. Estabamos averiguando que y como cuando llegaron a estacionarse junto de nosotros tres pick ups repletas de judiciales que me comentaron que "en unos 20 minutos levantaban a la bola de huevones" y que "a lo mejor había madrazos", así que decididamente nos alejamos del conflicto, cargamos gasolina y nos encaminamos a una playa llamada "La Ventosa", bastante contaminadita por la cercana refinería de Pemex. Estuvimos un rato perdiendo el tiempo viendo el mar, cuando llegaron otros turistas que nos comentaron que el bloqueo ya se había levantado, así que reanudamos el camino con una pérdida de tiempo de 2:30 horas.
Finalmente, a las 24:00 del Miércoles llegamos a Orizaba, cansados pero muy contentos por nuestro viaje; encontramos el horrible clima de Orizaba por estas fechas, pero ¡que importa!, ya estabamos en casita.
Carlos S. Castillo Cruz.
cuquin1@prodigy.net.mx
www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Bay/1637/
www.geocities.com/fantasmon_mx/index.htm
www.itorizaba.edu.mx/~nemo
Orizaba, México
Diciembre 1999
UNOBOCA@webtv.net
December 1999
Deborah Hinojosa
Houston, Texas
monjusi@att.net
December 1999
sunbeltentinc@gateway.net
December 1999
Susan Vigh
taba@worldchat.com
Hamilton Ontario Canada
December 1999
Kris
kwdesign@peconic.net
December 1999
Keith
k_wheeler@yahoo.com
December 1999
Zipolite is for budget-minded, street-wise types who want to rub elbows with a fun-loving, pot-smoking, nude-bathing, eclectic, international group. Oh, I didn't say anything about age. It just happens that a lot of people who fit this description and are able to take off for a month or two are young, but it is not the rule. You will find people of your age and older there as well. -Tom
Can anyone identify this place on the western side of Zipolite? I'd like to make a reservation for New Years.
Stephen Blutter
stevenb@pcc.net
December 1999
That might be Lyoban. Bar, music, restaurant and rooms upstairs? - Kris Warrenburg, kwdesign@peconic.net
masunte@yahoo.com
rinconcita@yahoo.com
November 1999
Also, I am looking for Martín and Jamil Naf. Martín is a jewelry maker, and he and his son Jamil lived at Lo Cosmico... One more thing I forgot the name of a bar/restaurant that was on the beach ... they had a great happy hour and the proprietor was an Argentinean by the name of Marcello. Anyone know the name of that great place? Thanks!
Alice
sheshe6030@aol.com
November 1999
Does anyone have info on Piña Palmera which I believe is in Zipolite? I tried to e-mail them but it was returned, I would like to volunteer. I am a carpenter/builder and I also teach Martial Arts, my specialty is with children, most recently at camp Winnarainbow with Wavy Gravy in Mendocino County, California.
Lorenzo Martinez
Bodo420@aol.com
November 1999
I'd like to know if there is any way that this outdoor living under the stars is still available on Zipolite. Is it still this quaint? I have always gone on Christmas and stayed for 2-3 weeks. I am thinking of going again this year. Will this area be overbooked in the hotels? Or since I'm willing to do the under the stars routine, can I find a family on the beach that will accommodate me. This was the most relaxing vacation ever, and I'd like to re-live my past into the Millennium.
There was a French restaurant a little ways down the beach at the top of a hill that served crepes (a husband a wife deal). It was great, does it still exist?
Thanks for the help, and a special thanks for this fantastic site, I love it.
Tony
tpatti1@aol.com
October 1999
Mail service was interrupted by the weather, so no mail was going into or coming out of Pto Angel for awhile.
Bill Brecheen
whbassoc@earthlink.net
October 1999
Planning to leave Oregon in mid-November and open up mid-December. I have driven all over Southern Mexico, but never in the North, is it best to go thru Texas and down the Gulf side? Mexican friends tell me the West coast is slow and Guerrero very dangerous. Please help me with any info you can gracias!
Darrell Cecil
darrellsue@webtv.net
October 1999
The fastest (but most boring) way is down the Gulf coast, cross the isthmus east of the mountains on Hwy 185 and head back west along the Oaxacan coast. -Tom
Chante Bergmann
Austin, TX
chanteb@hotmail.com
October 1999
See the June 2000 reply. -Tom
Somebody could tell me how are the situation in Zipolite after the constant rains and the earthquake? somebody know about Lino and her family from Lola's Hotel?
Rafa
rafanune@df1.telmex.net.mx
October 1999
Do you have any idea how to contact Francisco, or was it Fernando(?) at the Roca Blanca hotel? We stayed in one of his rooms last time and had a great time and felt secure (a lot of people were getting ripped off). There's a guy named Chico who works there, a Brazilian who speaks English well. We want to make a reservation because of the millenium - I believe its going to be mobbed.
Steven Blutter
steevenb@worldnet.att.net
October 1999
Jon Spooner
spooner@netmix.com
October 1999
JSieg10599@aol.com
September 1999
Siobhan & Joe
London
hgp@btinternet.com
September 1999
aries0777@yahoo.com
September 1999
Since hurricane Pauline Mazunte hasn't had phone service, so it's difficult to make reservations but neither is it essential unless you are there during the high tourist seasons. If you'd feel more secure having reservations, you can call the Buena Vista hotel in Puerto Angel (958) 431-04 and ask tell them you want to make reservations for their Mazunte place - the Alta Mira. They will probably connect you to Erica who works there at the Buena Vista but who is also the daughter of the wonderful woman (Doña Rosa) who takes care of the Alta Mira Bungalows and who prepares all meals there too - breakfast and dinner only.
The price at the Alta Mira is 300 pesos per bungalow and 50 pesos extra for each person over 2 people (current exchange rate is 9.3 pesos to the dollar.) At times this price is negotiable especially during lower seasons or if you're real nice to Doña Rosa :-)
Even though the meals are not cheap in Mexican terms (between 3 and 6 dollars per person) they are delicious and Rosa individually prepares each plate. And you can't beat the view!
Tim & Annette Gulick
mexikids@edomex1.telmex.net.mx
September 1999
Thanks!
Steven
steevenb@worldnet.att.net
September 1999
I visited your site on the web, and I saw you knowledge about the region. So we are looking for a nice, and comfortable hotel or rooms, service of Breakfasts, dilutes drinkable, etc.
We need information for 40 people. Could you help us? If you know a place, adgress or host, please contact us.
Rene Bautista
Mexico, D.F 01(5) 6-04-34-88
rbmtez@colossus.rhon.itam.mx
August 1999
Tasha Vasluski
nedd@eritter.net
August 1999
please give him my addresses:
PC Media Consult Heinrich Geisler
Media- und Marketingplanung
PF 1305
82524 GERETSRIED
KARL-LEDERER-PLATZ 16
82538 GERETSRIED
Germany
Tel.: ISDN (08171) 9 63 63
FAX (08171) 9 63 65
I am looking also for a Mexican actor who played a little role in a movie about Frida Kahlos life Frida kahlo and Diego Rivera are sitting in a cinema watching the actual world news the show Hitler in an open Mercedes Cabriolet with his right arm lifted up showing the "German greeting". Behind the two celebrities is a guy who starts applauding as he sees Hitler. Frida turns around and slaps him in his face I think his name (the actor's name) is Pedro Altamirano. He used to come around Xmas every year to that beach. Is there any chance to find him?
Heinrich Geisler
pcmgeisler@t-online.de, PMGEISLER@aol.com
August 1999
Rafael Núñez
rafanune@df1.telmex.net.mx
Julio 1999
Hayes Porterfield
hayp@ime.net
June 1999
Doug Johnston
DOUGIA@webtv.net
June 1999
Fijate que lo que me inquieto a conocer Zipolite es que conocí a una chava que me "movio el tapete" "fall in love" y ella ha ido mucho a esa playa y la verdad me comanta que es un paraiso.... Bueno pienso ir muy pronto a Zipo y poder conocer gente y hacer mucho amigos.
Gracias nuevamente y felicidades por haber conocido el Paraiso.
R. Cisneros
ROBERTO_CISNEROS@gruma.com
June 1999
But the most incredible thing of all down there was the warmth and love that complete strangers gave to my family. I am most thankful and indebted to Gloria for taking me in and giving me a new outlook on life. If anyone can give her a message please tell her that Karma loves her and that we are trying to save money to come back soon.
If anyone is thinking about having a baby down there its the most beautiful place for a child's first sounds and sights, but besides registering the child with the Mexican gov't for a birth certificate, remember to stop in Mexico City at the US embassy and register there too. You cannot get an American birth cert. or S.S. card otherwise. There is no way to do it from the states! I even tried to go through my congressman. Needless to say, we're stopping in Mexico City on our way to Zipolite. I would rather have those extra days at the beach. Send my love to the whole Family at Shambala.
Karma Swislow
KarmaYetta@aol.com
June 1999
Two, that always will come back
Evi & Gerd
Gerhard.Groeneveld@t-online.de
June 1999
Bill Barker
bbilredbar@aol.com
May 1999
Condonacion de la deuda
En el marco del Jubileo del Año 2000, al que convoco el papa Juan Pablo II en 1994, y tomando en cuenta que la deuda externa representa un grave obstaculo para el desarrollo, los representantes de los institutos de vida religiosa en Mexico se comprometieron la semana pasada a impulsar una campaña nacional de recoleccion de firmas, para pedir a los paises acreedores la condonacion total de la deuda de las naciones mas pobres, y en forma parcial la de Mexico.
Al finalizar en Orizaba su XXXIV Asamblea, expresaron en un mensaje al pueblo mexicano, que un modo concreto y eficaz de vivir la justicia en America "es el llevar adelante la peticion que hace el Papa sobre la condonacion de la deuda, a la que se han unido varios paises como Francia y España, y ya no pocos episcopados, entre ellos el nuestro". Creemos -añaden- "que hay que denunciar la complejidad del problema: se debe a corrupcion, mala administracion, a elevados intereses, a politicas financieras especulativas, a gobernantes irresponsables y al enriquecimiento de personas concretas, en lugar de haber sido dedicada a sostener los cambios necesarios para el desarrollo del pais".
La campaña se suma a las que con objetivos muy semejantes realizan en mas de 30 paises muchos grupos, instituciones y personas de diversas orientaciones politicas, religiosas e ideologicas, y tiene como finalidad liberar de la pesada carga de la deuda externa a mas de mil millones de personas. Una meta inmediata es entregar en junio de este ano en Colonia al grupo de los siete, 22 millones de firmas.
Como afirma el Episcopado frances en un documento reciente sobre el tema, muchos de los responsables de las grandes instituciones financieras saben que la deuda de los paises pobres jamas podra ser reembolsada, y sin embargo dudan en decidir su anulacion. "Todavia la presion de la opinion publica no es tan fuerte para ello". Ademas, con la crisis monetaria mundial, que afecta a paises emergentes como Indonesia, o en reconversion, como Rusia, tienen otras preocupaciones. "Los paises mas pobres corren una vez mas el riesgo de ser olvidados si nadie habla en su favor. El Jubileo 2000 es la ocasion para luchar contra este olvido".
Por lo que se refiere a America Latina, del 25 al 28 de enero de este año tuvo lugar en Honduras un importante encuentro de diversos representantes de la Iglesia y de la sociedad civil de 17 paises del continente, para lanzar la campaña a nivel latinoamericano, que lamentablemente tuvo muy pocas repercusiones en la prensa. Al final se emitio la Declaracion de Tegucigalpa, en la que, entre otras cosas, se afirma que la deuda externa de America Latina, cuyo monto se calcula en alrededor de 706 mil millones de dolares: cuyo servicio alcanzo ya entre 1990 y 1997 la cantidad de 581 mil millones de dolares, y por la que tendrian que pagarse solo este año 123 mil millones mas, es impagable, Ilegitima e inmoral.
Impagable, se dice, porque matematicamente no hay formula para hacerlo. Dos decadas completas de refinanciamientos, imposibles de ser cumplidos por los paises en desarrollo, lo demuestran claramente. Ilegitima, "porque se origino principalmente en decisiones de gobiernos dictatoriales, no elegidos por el pueblo, o en gobiernos formalmente democraticos, pero corruptos, sin ademas ser utilizada en beneficio del pueblo al que hoy se le exige su costo". Ilegitima, porque crecio amparada por tasas de interes y condiciones de negociacion impuestas por los gobiernos y bancos acreedores, que negaron reiterada y abusivamente el derecho de asociacion de los gobiernos deudores, aun cuando ellos si lo hicieran a traves de verdaderos carteles de acreedores (Club de Paris, Comite de Gestion), respaldados ademas por la coercion economica del Fondo Monetario Internacional y del Banco Mundial.
"La orden era clara y determinante: ustedes negocian individualmente, nosotros negociamos en bloque".
Es inmoral, porque los gobiernos tienen que destinar un alto porcentaje de los recursos del Estado a pagar la deuda externa, afectando mas que nada a los programas sociales, a los salarios de los trabajadores, generando el desempleo y afectando gravemente el funcionamiento de la economia. "Hoy existe una enorme deuda social en salud, educacion y nutricion del pueblo. Los estados gastan hoy en el area social 60 por ciento menos por habitante que en 1970".
Jubileo 2000 Mexico
Parte del movimiento global de Jubilee 2000, cuya demanda es la cancelación de las deudas externas de los paises mas pobres antes del año 2000.
Tu reto es informar a todos sobre el movimiento de Jubileo 2000 y de la situacion intolerable de las deudas del mundo pobre. Nosotros te enviaremos una carta cada semana, informandote de las actividades, las deudas y sus efectos tragicos. Proximamente te informaremos la fecha de las manifestaciones en junio. Para organizarnos es importante que nos informes de tu grupo y su plan de accion. Dinos el nombre de tu grupo de accion. Correo Electrónico jubi20@yahoo.com, Direccion postal; Jubileo 2000, Apartado 2, C.P. 70900 Pochutla, Oaxaca Mexico.
David Soltero
davidsol@usa.net
May 1999
JSieg10599@aol.com
May 1999
MANIFESTACIONES MUNDIALES   A mediados de Junio, en Alemania se celebrara la Cumbre Internacional en la que estaran presentes los siete paises mas ricos del mundo. En ella, Jubileo 2000 Europa, se manifestara y presentara una peticion avalada por mas de 22 millones de personas, siendo esta la mas grande de la historia. Jubileo 2000 Mexico mostrara su solidaridad con cadenas humanas, que representan las cadenas de deuda, en los pueblos y ciudades de nuestro pais. ¡ACTUA AHORA!, manifiesta tu reprobacion de las deudas que matan, hacen sufrir y explotan a millones de personas. Forma un grupo de accion.
Nicaragua tiene una deuda externa de US$5,929 billones, principalmente generada por la guerra civil de los 80´s, de los cuales US$106 millones fueron prestados por el gobierno EEUU. En 1988 Nicaragua contaba con US$58 por persona para programas de salud, disminuyendo para 1997 a US$14. Durante este periodo, tuvo que pagar aproximadamente un millon de dolares diarios a los prestadores internacionales.
Despues del huracan Mitch, la deuda de Nicaragua fue revisada por el Club de Paris (una reunion de los ministros financieros de los paises mas ricos del oeste). Estos suspendieron los pagos a corto plazo, pero no redujeron la deuda externa de Nicaragua. Muchos de los apoyos de emergencia enviados a Nicaragua despues del huracan, resultaron ser prestamos, con altos intereses; creando una crisis mayor a la de 1997.
El mes pasado el Presidente Clinton, se disculpo por la intervencion financiera estadounidense en las "guerras sucias" de America Latina. Sin la cancelacion de las deudas generadas durante estas guerras, las disculpas son insultos, son palabras vacias.
La campania intensiva de Jubileo 2000 ha logrado resultados. Varios Paises Europeos, principalmente Francia, han cancelado o reducido deudas. Sin embargo es solo el comienzo.
¿COMO ACTUAR?   Tu reto es informar a todos sobre el movimiento de Jubileo 2000 y de la situacion intolerable de las deudas del mundo pobre. Nosotros te enviaremos una carta cada semana, informandote de las actividades, las deudas y sus efectos tragicos. Proximamente te informaremos la fecha de las manifestaciones en junio. Para organizarnos es importante que nos informes de tu grupo y su plan de accion. Dinos el nombre de tu grupo de accion. Correo Electronico jubi20@yahoo.com, Direccion postal; Jubileo 2000, Apartado 2, C.P. 70900 Pochutla, Oaxaca Mexico. Por mas informacion ver el Jubileo 2000 internacional web site o la pagina de Jubileo 2000 Mexico.
Anna Johansson de Cano
"Pina Palmera" A.C.
E-mail: pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
May 1999
Jubileo quiere decir aniversario o fiesta. Antiguamente los países gobernados por un monarca, consideraron el cumpleaños del rey o la reina como un jubileo. En muchos países el rey celebró la ocasión, perdonando criminales y cancelando deudas que los campesinos debieran a sus patrones. Así un Jubileo llegó a significar una ocasión para perdonar, cancelar deudas y hacer un nuevo inicio.
¿ Cuál es la deuda que deberíamos cancelar? En los años sesenta y setenta el Fondo Monetario Internacional junto con los Bancos Internacionales prestó billones de dólares a los países pobres de América Latina, Asia y África. Hubo poco control de los préstamos. Mucho del dinero fue robado por los político y militares de los países recibidores y por empresarios internacionales. El poco dinero que llegó al pueblo, se gastó rápido en vez de invertirlo en proyectos a largo plazo. La inversión no apoyó a la gente ni generó el crecimiento económico necesario para pagar las deudas.
Para recibir los préstamos, los países recibidores tuvieron que comprometerse a un calendario de pagos, no solamente del dinero recibido sino también de altos intereses. En muchos casos los prestadores pusieron tasas de intereses de más del veinticinco por ciento. Aunque parece que los países ricos del mundo están apoyando económicamente a los países en desarrollo, por el contrario, es falso. Entre 1983 y 1989 los países en desarrollo pagaron $242,000,000,000.00 de dólares, más de lo que recibieron en apoyo.
¿Quiénes son Jubileo 2000, y qué dicen? Jubileo 2000 es una organización internacional donde convergen gentes de diferentes culturas, clases sociales y religiones. Entre sus promotores cuentan con el Papa, Madona, Mohamed Ali y otras figuras públicas y políticas. El propósito de Jubileo 2000 es persuadir al Fondo Monetario Internacional a celebrar el fin del milenio cancelando todo las deudas pendientes de los países en desarrollo. Así ellos podrían empezar el tercer milenio sin las cadenas de deuda que les amarran a la pobreza. Además todo el mundo podría empezar el nuevo milenio en un ambiente más justo, más caritativo y más digno.
Jubileo 2000 cuenta con gente de 42 países, entre sus promotores se encuentra el Papa, Madona, Muhammad Ali y el Dalai Lama. Sin embargo no es suficiente, también tenemos que contar contigo, con tu familia y todos tus conocidos. Para sumarte a nosotros, circula esta carta por correo electrónico, fax, correo o a mano. Si quieres más información, favor de contactarnos en el siguiente correo electrónico: jubi20@yahoo.com
Atentamente Jubileo 2000, México
Anna Johansson de Cano
"Pina Palmera" A.C.
E-mail: pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
May 1999
Silvie Jauvin
jauvins@FAS.UMontreal.CA
May 1999
Bert has been found. -Tom
chinacatcabin@webtv.net
Jeffrey Bacon
April 1999
That's all. Just a little note to tell you I appreciated the site. Hasta luego amigo.
Jaime Michele
aajaimer@yahoo.com
April 1999
Sara Vigh
svigh@hotmail.com
Ontario, Canada
April 1999
It's urgent, because I'm in love with Cesar and I would like to invite him to me before I return to him in Zipolite.
Cesar has been found. -Tom
Katja Hrobat
Slovenia
hrokat@hotmail.com
April 1999
Every body was cool and funny, surtout le mec de Valleyfield (Quebec) qui fabrique , vend des bijoux et de la biere sur la plage...
Merci et Hasta la proxima ves !
Al.
AAlain2850@aol.com
March 1999
I think Zipolite is more interesting than Huatulco, because it's a paceful place to enjoy. I met people from USA, Finland, England, France and Spain, I think that you could make friends if you wish it. Probably I'll go again, next July. Who wants to come with me? (I live in Mexico City).
¡J'aimerais faire amis du tout le monde!
Me encantó Zipolite, fui en Julio del 98 y aunque tengo 24 años, pienso que no hay demasiados riesgos como para ser necesario ir con alguien mas.
Todo lo que conoci de Oaxaca me pareció maravilloso en especial la iglesia de Santo Domingo y el museo que se encuentra junto a ella, El Tule es increible y Monte Alban Y Mitla también. Cuando fui a Zipolite pude ver rios, montañas y mucha pero mucha vegetacion. Aproveche para viajar de noche y conocí mucha gente de varios paises sumamente amable, creo que en ese lugar puedes conocer gente de todo el mundo. Lo chistoso es que se notaba inmediatamente que persona era de otro país y que persona era de México (las chavas latinas no se quitan la ropa). Hice amigos de Francia, Finlandia Y Estados Unidos.
Las habitaciones son baratas (60 pesos por noche) y lo más peligroso es el mar pues estuve a punto de colgar los tenis, las olas ya me estaban llevando mar adentro, como pude (como en media hora) llegué a la playa. Creo que le hace falta señalización pues pude apreciar cómo se metian a rescatar a unas personas; pero capaz que no se percata uno de nada hasta que llegue el cuerpo a la playa. Por eso: Mucho Ojo.
Es muy posible que vaya otra vez en Julio ¿Alguien se interesa en ir conmigo? Yo lo/la puedo llevar.
luisferrm@correoweb.com
March 1999
However, what was to come was worse...the third night of our stay we woke up at 4am to banditos stealing all our stuff. They took our backpacks which contained clothes, shoes, books and cameras... not a single picture of the trip as a result. Fortunately we all slept with our money belts under our pillows, or they would have gotten them too. We were very lucky we weren't physically harmed... when the banditos heard us wake up, they flew out the window. Now, don't get me wrong, Shambala is a beautiful place.. awesome food and friendly people. But I would seriously recommend sleeping up in the hammocks rather than the beachfront cabana. It has no locks when you are sleeping. I'm sure we were not the first to be robbed, nor the last.
The riptide in Zipolite is horrifying. We watched two people drown in the waters the second day there. As for the peace and magic everyone talks about...I couldn't find it anywhere. There were people everywhere and restaurants from one end of the beach to the other. It was not the Zipolite I had in mind at all.
We visited Mazunte, which is a 15 minute taxi away...now there was peace and magic!! It was much smaller. I would highly recommend visiting this paradise. And the turtle sanctuary is worth checking out too.
Then we decided to head back to Puerto Escondido where we stayed for the remaining week of our holiday. I would definitely visit PE again. We stayed on Playa Zicatela. We quickly became addicted to Carmen's pastries at La Cafecita ( especially her mango pastry), and everything on the menu at La Gota da Vida. It has an excellent vegetarian menu!!! We stayed at Hotel Ines. It cost us $10 Canadian each per night (4 people sharing a room). It has a beautiful pool and the rooms are immaculate. In fact this room was only $2 more per night than the one in Zipolite (which had no private shower or toilet). We danced away a few nights to a salsa band at La Rumba.. a bar in town...lots of fun.
Even though we dealt with a lot of disaster this trip, I don't regret a single moment of it. Possessions can be replaced, but the memories and the stories are worth every lost item. For any of you heading off to these parts....be safe and enjoy.
schlack@islandnet.com
March 1999
Julie
bedaine2@total.net
March 1999
The best posada: La Iguana Azul, best drinks, best food personal attention by the owner, Jorge Jimenez Moreno very nice guy, and lawyer too. Zipolite is the same as always magic and mysterious (beautiful) and I hope we will keep it like that forever. I've heard that Zipolite is dangerous. That is true if you look for problems, but if you don't you will be as safe as if you were at home. If you bring things of value, deposit them with your host, he will keep them for you so you can enjoy the beautiful beach. Don't be afraid of coming to this paradise. It is a place you will remember forever.
Saludos,
Lourdes Roca
Steve Young
Can anybody of you do me a favour? if you travel to Zipolite and get to know Ghandi (if you ask yourself, where he actually comes from, he comes from Acapulco and you will find him on the beach, underneath the stars, on the upmost level of the Shambala or wherever mescal flows ... ), please tell him that he is a wonderful wonderful wonderful man. unfortunately I do not remember many names ... Thanks to all of you, especially to Lee (who knows that I thank him) and hello to Guy (who will probably read this), to Daniel the fisherman and to Daniel the Norte-Americano who looks like an Indian guru.
Daniela from Austria, Vienna
En este viaje fui solo con un amigo y decidmos utilizar autobús; tomamos el AU de Orizaba a Oaxaca, la corrida sale a las 01:50 horas, le toma 5 horas llegar a su destino y para junto a la terminal de autobuses de segunda.
Esta terminal es un feo y grande local circular dividido en 2 partes, salidas y arribos. Junto a los arribos se venden los boletos para las diversas líneas y destinos, los servicios están clasificados en ordinario y directo. La línea que elegimos fue "Estrella del Valle", en servicio ordinario hacia Puerto Angel via Pochutla a las 08:00 horas, precio $ 52.00. El recorrido se realizó por la carretera 175, hacía ya más de tres años que no pasaba por ahí, a pesar de que está transitable todavía se ven muchos restos de los destrozos ocasionados por "Paulina", algunos puentes en las partes inferiores de las inumerables cañadas fueron barridos por aludes de lodo y piedras y las reparaciones no están concluidas del todo, de hecho hay tramos donde la circulación es por un solo carril y los deslaves son constantes.
Pero no todo es malo; la vista de las montañas azules que se antojan infinitas en el punto más alto de la sierra, semejante a enormes olas de un extraño mar es increible. Una pareja de canadienses que viajaba con nosotros se sorprendió tanto que me hizo recapacitar sobre si los mexicanos realmente apreciamos las maravillas que la naturaleza dotó a esta tierra en la que vivimos.
Pues bien, enmedio de costales de cebolla y verduras, sombreros y guajolotes arribamos a Pochutla después de 8 horas de un recorrido sinuoso, lleno de paradas para cargar y descargar pasaje y bultos, un ajuste de los frenos del autobus y pequeños altos para descargar las vejigas de algunos pasajeros ignorantes de los efectos diuréticos del jugo de naranja en ayunas.
De Pochutla tomamos un autobús "urbano" que hace el recorrido Puerto Angel - Zipolite - San Agustinillo - Mazunte - Pochutla y puntos intermedios ($ 4.00). Nos hospedamos en "Lola's", los precios de hospedaje y alimentación continuan siendo bastante accesibles, $120.00 la noche, comidas al rededor de $30.00 por persona.
La playa está mejor que en otras ocasiones. El escalón de arena casi desapareció, ahora te metes al mar y debes irte bastante adentro para que el agua te llegue a la cintura. Las turistas europeas tan chulas y deshibidas como siempre.
En esta ocasión conocimos el "Shambala", buena comida en el café ($ 22.00 comida corrida), alojamientos por $50.00 diarios. También estuvimos en "La Puesta", con hora feliz de 22:00 a 23:00, un poco caro pero hay buen ambiente. La comida en la "Iguana Azul" también está muy bien, las bebidas son todavía más baratas que en "La Puesta".
Por otra parte, estuvimos asoleándonos en la Playa del Amor. Tomé algunas fotos que no he revelado todavía pero que incluré en la próxima modificación de mi website.
Muchos saludos.
Carlos S. Castillo Cruz.
I stayed at a "posada" called Restaurant El Chololo, which is the last one before going to Playa del Amor - from this location you can see the sunset twelve months a year! I seriously recommend this place. They rent "cabañas" (rooms) for 50 pesos a night and the food is relatively cheap. Gennaro, the owner of the place, is very kind, and his cooking is really delicious.
Now, a few words to those who are going to spend some time over there....
It is a fact indeed that Zipolite is one of the Mexican beaches with the highest crime rate in the country, but such a detail should not discourage people from going, at all: nothing ever happend to me or to any person I met who had gone to that sea-side. Anyway, for the peace of the mind, you can take a torch-lamp with you, and a long stick if you are afraid of dogs.... For what concerns drugs (like pot, for instance), it is simple: never accept drugs offered by strangers - in other words, if you have just gotten there, you are still looking for a place to spend the night and someone comes by to offer a "good deal" with some stuff, do not trust that person: it has happened in the past that policemen disguised like hippies or local fishermen actually framed people by offering them drugs for free or for ridicolus prices. So, be careful. If you look for certain kinds of entertainment, ask to the owner (or manager) of the place you are staying at. For what concerns the sea, Zipolite has always been called "la playa de la muerte" - the beach of death - because of the number of currents present, most of which are under-water. It does not matter if you are a regular,
modest swimmer or a olympic champion: if you do not pay attention, you die! The average statistics is about 40 casualties per year. So, do not underestimate the sea down there.
Well, what is written above are tips for the trip; however, once you get there, it is up to your judgment and cleverness. Thank you for providing this Web site for a beautiful place as Zipolite.
Saverio F
Attila G.
As you would expect the place has haunted me ever since and after twenty-six years of reminiscing, I would like to go back and visit with my wife. We don't mind roughing it but we wouldn't mind staying in the best that Zipolite had to offer. Some privacy would be nice and of course a toilet (the side of a hill was all there was the last time). Are there beds anywhere or a place to lay out a double sleeping bag? It sounds by the letters that hammocks are pretty much it. We would like to take a plane to Mexico City and then another to Huatulco does this sound good? We plan to go Jan.15 or there abouts. Is there a way to make reservations? Are there phones in Zipolite yet? The letters indicated that progress has moved slowly which is great but some improvements are nice (i.e. toilets).
Please write and tell me if Felipa is still there, also Antonio and his wife Consuela who owned a house up the road from the public well (west end of the beach). The magic of the place hasn't seemed to have changed and the nice mixture of Mexicans, Europeans, and Americans sounds just the same as it was twenty-six years ago. Thank you for providing this web site and for any more info you can.
Bill Neilon
There's an incredible pizza place out by Roca Blanca. I forget what it's called but when you go there do order the cheese and nut or cheese and apple pie for dessert--chocolate is also good. There's some German building some stuff just north of Lola's and Lola's is in a state of repair, so that can cut short the peace and quiet.
There are some nice cliffs by el faro (the lighthouse) though it's not easily accessible. Try going to Punta Cometa ("Comet Point"). It's a long walk through some forest but it's really nice when you get there--just follow the trail.
Don't purchase anything from Chilo the Zapotec surfer boy or Stateside John if you can help it. In fact, avoid Stateside John--an enfeebled, geriatric, dreadlocked hippie--altogether unless you'd like to hear his B.S. stories and pleas for money. If you must buy, tell the salesperson that you'll be staying for longer than you really are and that, while you will make daily purchases, you'll want to buy an extraordinarily huge amount just before you leave to take with you.
As for the surrounding communities, such as Puerto Angel, you can go there if you want to contend with native hustlers and dumbshit tourists. But, just a suggestion, find a place in Zipolite where you can rent a hammock cheaply and enjoy the quiet and solitude. There's even a trailer park north of the road that runs by Lola's. Listen for the mechanical, factory sound of the Hurraca bird.
There is one American who lives in Zipolité, Derek Brockett. He is an English professor at Universidad del Mar in Puerto Angel. He's a very private person but if you run across him (he looks just like Buddy Holly) he would probably give some advice.
Most importantly, know Spanish before you go because nobody, I mean nobody, speaks English here.
commba@ionet.net
How is Zipolite? Is the sand still there? Zipolite is doing fine and the beach is still there.
Shambala was badly hit by the hurricane last year but Gloria has done an incredible job in putting back the pieces and it is open and receiving guests again, though it still need more work as many other places on the beach.
The roads from Puerto Escondido and Huatulco are clear but in very bad shape. Now it takes two and a half hours to go to Puerto Escondido when it used to take just one. The road to Huatulco is slightly better but also has many holes in it.
You can still get here by bus from Mexico City but it takes longer time than usual (over 14 hours). I would recommend that he travel by plane to Huatulco if possible. It is definitely safer.
Bring a good sunblock (over No. 30) and mosquito repellent. There have been an unusual number of Malaria cases this year so it is important to protect oneself from mosquitos and maybe bring malaria tablets. The kind of Malaria we have here at the coast is called Vivax and it is curable. (You take cloro-quinine for five days).
Anna Johansson de CanoHwy 175, La Iguana Azul
I went to Zipolite last January and I'd like to tell what I found the road from Oaxaca to Pochutla is ok. (Lots of curves), 8 hrs. Ride, from Pochutla to Zipolite by colectivo 5 pesos.
Rodolfo
jpqc@df1.telmex.net.mx
February 1999¿Conoces Erasmo?
Solicito teléfono de Erasmo, quien renta bungalows ecológicos en Mazunte. Agradeceré mucho que me proporcionen sus datos.
louroca@mail.giga.com
Febrero 1999Hwy 175 Info Request
I'm looking for an update---Can you share? Generally, length of drive (miles & hours), safety issues, adequacy of services along the way.
SYoung7515@aol.com
February 1999Friends at Zipolite
A friend of me (Andi, you will read from him, if you browse through the comments) told me, that Zipolite can be "visited" in the internet ... well, here I am and there I was. It is nearly one and a half years ago, that I left this magic place. Did you ever hear music in the air? No? You want to make this experience? So, go to Zipolite. I was there in August 1997 (left the playa cause of the masses of people and some incredible experiences ... ) and could not resist returning in September. the beach was partly deserted and I stayed there for more than two weeks. I swear, never again did I find more calmness and a place more suitable for spacy, trippy and mythical (yeah, all together ... ) experiences ...
a9320620@unet.univie.ac.at
January 1999Zipolite por Autobús
Estuve en Zipo desde el Viernes 8 hasta el Lunes 11 de este mes y hay algunas novedades interesantes.
cuquin1@prodigy.net.mx
www.itorizaba.edu.mx/~nemo
Orizaba, México
Enero 1999Zipolite Advice
I have just come back from Zipolite a couple of days ago; it was simply great: I stayed for a week, during New Year's celebrations, and I really had a lot of fun.
sfg@geocities.com
January 1999Zipolite gay?
Vengo y regreso a Zipolite desde doce anos, y veo poca gente gay, demasiado poca para un lugar que sigue siendo tan precioso. En todo caso, como hombre solo hay que tener un poco cuidado en la Playa del Amor, porque los pocas personas que vienen pueden hasta llegar a ser violentos. Nunca voy a comprender porque los gays van a CanCun.
stutti@hotmail
November 1998Zipolite in 1972
What a terrific shock to run across your web site. I last visited Zipolite in 1972. It had only one business establishment on the beach itself which was an open-aired, thatched roof with a cooler full of Carta Blancas and refrescos. The owner, a woman named Felipa, later added a kitchen area and began to serve food. My friend Dave and I camped in the coconut grove and paid the owner at the top of the hill two pesos a day to set up our tent there. There were just a few restaurants along the road Ramon's (a local) and Maria's (an american girl) newly married to a Mexican at the time were two I can remember. We stayed for four months and had the time of our lives.
npija@banet.net
November 1998Lola's, Chilo, Stateside John ...
Spent Oct. 26 through 30 1998 at Lola's in Zipolité. Lola and her husband and everyone are nice... as long as one doesn't bring an outside beer into her dining area. Lola's food isn't too spectacular, though there's a place immediately east of there that is! Don't tell Lola.
November 1998How Things Are in Zipolite and Area
The rains have been only beneficial for us so far, no floods or damage...well... the roads are in a terrible condition, thats true, but you can still transit on them. Everything is luch and green.
"Pina Palmera" A.C.
pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
Webpages: http://palmera.webway.se and http://www.laneta.apc.org/pina/
November 5, 1998
Estuve en Zipo desde el Lunes 13 hasta el Jueves 16 de este mes; me encontré algunas novedades que quiero compartir:![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |   |
Translation:
I was in Zipo from Monday 13 until Thursday 16 of this month; I have some news that I want to share: |
Carlos S. Castillo Cruz. Orizaba. México
cuquin1@prodigy.net.mx
Julio 1998
Louise Rice
ricewing@worldnet.att.net
July 1998
(Andi) Andreas Crepax
xaperc@hotmail.com
Vienna/Austria
June 1998
My question is this: I am an avid "light tackle" fisherman. Are there many fresh-water lagoons which may house Black Bass? In particular I am looking for a species that is found in Southern Mexico and Central America---in the USA we call them "Peacock" Bass. They are large, going upward of 7 kilos, and are brilliant in color. I do not know the Spanish name for this species. Can you help me out on this?
I should arrive in mid-September and plan on staying until the 1st of the year. Any info would be greatly appreciated .
Larry W. Phillips
LarryMex@webtv.net
June 1998
Last year I spent almost the whole month of August on the beach in Zipolite. And as so many others it had begun as a two-day stay. We arrived and checked into Shambala. We hung our hammocks and went to explore the area. We didn't get far, we ran into a friend from Puerto Escondido, Mario, the brother-in-law of the current owner of La Nata. We, myself and my friends Stephanie and Lisa, sat down with Mario and the current owner of La Nata, Carlos, and had a couple of beers. Carlos pulled out his guitar and he, Mario and Stephanie took turns playing and singing. Needless to say we all became instant friends. Mario was there to say goodbye before he moved to San Cristobal de las Casas with his new wife, Francesca, to open their own bar. So it was kind of a going away and a welcome to the beach celebration rolled into one.
The next day we discovered that the beautiful "Robinson Caruso" Style Cabana was available so we moved to Lo Cosmico. The Cabana was dubbed "The Castle" and our thoughts of a two day stay were fading quickly. To say we got sucked into the magic that is Zipolite is not really an adequate description of what happened. The funny thing is that as our stay drew on, some of the people we had met away from Zipolite started to wander in as well it definitely had us under it's spell. The fact that there was a full moon coming up and we organized a big party at La Nata with live acoustic and amplified music made us feel such a part of the place that I have promised to go back and work at La Nata sometime in the near future.
Stephanie and I, spent a good deal of time at La Nata. During the day we would work on making our leather bracelets and necklaces and at night we would drink the most delicious margaritas and daiquiris made anywhere in the world. Organizing the Full Moon Party and being in there for so long we met some really great people! The sad thing is that we have no way to be in touch with most of them.
So if any of this sounds familiar to you please drop me a note. We, Stephanie and myself, are going to make it back there in late August this year. It would be so great to meet up with some "Old Friends". We have some fun pictures of our stay in Zipolite and would love to exchange them with you. The pictures and stories are not there yet but they will be up on our web site soon. The site is found at www.passthehat.org, and like I said we are working to get new stuff up there soon!
Zipolite will always be one of my favorite places in the world. And I smile whenever I think of the people I met there- Carlos, Elvia, Sebastian, Danny and Bobby, Daniel, Mountain Boy, Nathan, Hannah, Lemon Pie Girl, Island Boy (Richard), Ghandi, Mario-the jewelery maker, the list goes on and on. I can only hope that if you visit Zipolite you will experience the same magic as I did. If I don't see you there this summer ther is always the next time because there will always be another visit to Zipolite.
Kathy K
kookyk@passthehat.org
June 1998
Starting in Oaxaca, we drove about two hours through a more or less flat landscape with nothing really exciting except the road: a lot of potholes forced us to drive carefully looking ahead, and sometimes we had to drive on the left side of the road, But there wasn't a lot traffic...maybe you need shock absorbers on your car to cope with the potholes!
After this, we came to a mountainous region, and the road began to wind. First it was funny in a way, but the zigzags didn't allow us to relax in the car and we didn't know at this time that we were in for about five hours with just zigzags! The road conditions worsened. Wood, stones and sand were on the road, and we were a little confused where the stones came from! We thought that a stone coming from up the hill could easily hit our car! Maybe it is not too dangerous, because fortunately this didn't happen to us! Anyway you need strong nerves, and it's an entertainment!
[Rocks fall onto the roadway (and cars) when it is raining, speaking from experience. --Tom]
Along the road we saw workers trying to repair the road, but it looked like that it would take a long time to finish the repairs. But they were nice to see; it seemed that the whole family was there. Beside the road, women were cooking, children were playing or helping with the work...So drive carefully! WATCH OUT FOR THE PLAYING CHILDREN!
And there were these big trucks trying to go the other direction, so several times we had to stop to let them pass, and when we succeeded, a big dusty cloud followed the truck. All in all, the way via hwy 175 took us about eight hours.
So my advise is to take the road via Acapulco. It's a bit longer way, but maybe you arrive more relaxed (but without the excitement [and mountain scenery]). Along the way [Hwy 200] you can see something of other Pacific places, like Pt. Escondido.
But don't take the direct bus from Oaxaca to Pochutla. As people told me it takes a long time, because the bus has to make special maneuvers to cope with the zigzags. And the buses are not the newest ones. But you may like this?!
I would like to express kind greetings to Mexico and the people I met there while I was travelling through the country. Maybe somebody recognizes me. I would be glad to get an e-mail!!!
Andreas Crepax
MAZUNTE@WEBTV.NET
She sent me an urgent message needing funds and stating a recent accident she experienced. The message was sent on April 12. Previously she sent me a letter stating that she was in Oaxaca and was heading to Zipolite.
It has been 8 days since I heard from her and she had made no banking transaction since the 14th of April. This is leading me to worry about her. She had mentioned that she was in a campsite.
My daughter is about 5'4", 105 lbs, brown hair, american-asian and has a tattoo of a dragon on the nape of her neck.
Please help!
Thank you.
Cecilia Reed
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Thanks for your concern, David.
My daughter came back to Los Angeles last week... after the incident in
Chiapas (Agua Azul) to be exact... I was very glad to see her come home
in one piece.
She is back at the university again.
Anyway,,,,, try to avoid Chiapas if you can.
Thanks again,
I got in to Zipolite on December 29, 1998 and the entire beach was packed.
Every palapa and hammock space was filled. Since we had read the posts on
your web site we had brought our own tent. We made arrangements at Palapa
Kiko and set up our gear.
Within an hour of setting up our tent, we had our hammock, swim trunks and
hat stolen. Being fresh gringos on the beach we assumed that we deserved it
to some extent and brushed the incident off. Everyday something new was
stolen. It became the joke in the morning, lets see what got stolen today?
Theft is really a problem, especially during this time of year.
After two weeks at Palapa Kiko we moved up to Mazunte where we encountered
some of the nicest people, the most pristine beach and a community trying
hard to foster responsible tourism. The difference between Zipolite' vibe
and Mazunte's vibe was incredible. We stayed with Juan in one of the
Palapas on the beach towards the end. I was so impressed that Juan had
taken the initiative and was one of the first palapa owners to build a
natural septic system. He explained to me that when it rained all the
sewage would overflow into the water, down on the beach and the system that
his sons were building, with help from a development agency, would resolve
the issue. It was great to see such kind, honest people taking care of
their unique setting.
I have recently heard back from my friend who is teaching English in the
mountains outside of Oaxaca. He had a week off and decided to head back
down to Mazunte. Wanting to body surf a little he went back to Zipolite
for the day. Looking for a place to put his stuff down, he went back to
Palapa Kiko and ordered a beer. The owner recognized my fiend from the
previous month and began to make small talk eventually offering to watch
his stuff. It was then that he made eye contact with the teenage son, he
became skiddish. The son was wearing the surf trunks that had been stolen
in our first week at Palapa Kiko. The son ran out the back door with my
friend in pursuit. After failing to catch him my friend went back to Palapa
Kiko and told the father and mother what had happened, explaining that
those were his trunks and that he had stolen them. The father became very
upset and called my friend a liar saying that he was drunk and crazy and
that his son was in school. I now wonder if all the stuff we had stolen had
been stolen by the very people we were paying money to stay with.
While I know that there are always thieves around tourist beaches I was
shocked to find out that it was one of the Palapa owners. My advice, stay
away from Palapa Kiko.
I hope someone finds this information useful.
Trent
So far almost all roofs are back into place in Zipolite and all restaurants are working
again and there are even a few new ones. There are less trees so the place
is hotter and more arid but in August and September it is usually very
lush. A room for two persons with a fan but without bathroom
rents for about 60 pesos for two persons per night. (One U.S. dollar costs
about 8.50 pesos) If you want a room with a bathroom the price goes up to
80 pesos. There are several places on the beach where you can rent rooms,
for example "La Choza", "Nuevo Sol" and "San Cristobal". In the low season
it should not be any problem finding a place
to stay.
There has been an increase in cases of Malaria recently, which is
not a good sign during the dry season, that means that there can possibly be a
bigger outbreak when the rains start. The kind of Malaria we have in
Zipolite is called Vivax and is rather easy to cure.
Make sure you bring flashlights and mosquito repellent, (You can
buy mosquito net for 80 pesos at the Pochutla market), and a sweater (it
can get cold at night some times during the rainy season).
Anna Johansson de Cano
Jessica Marcelli S.
Heather Rice
Solo dos situaciones no me gustaron: la primera es que encontré la playa
bastante "fresa", solo conté 4
desnudistas, todos hombres (incluido un servidor), ninguna dama que alegrara
la vista, lástima.
El otro problema fue el mal estado de la carretera que va de Salina Cruz a
Pochutla; elegí esta ruta debido a que
según sabía la carretera de la sierra Oaxaca - Pochutla estaba cerrada al
tránsito debido a los deslaves provocados
por los huracanes; pues bien, una ponchadura (rajadura más bien) con la
consiguiente pérdida de una llanta y
tiempo nos retrasó mucho en el viaje de regreso. Definitivamente no
recomiendo la circulación por ese camino,
está lleno de baches, algunos con objetos metálicos en el interior, como en
el que desafortunadamente cayó mi coche.
Para aquellos padres de bebés que quieran ir, tengo algunos consejos prácticos:
1. Lleven repelente de mosquitos (todo el que puedan), hay mucho mosquito y,
tal vez la posibilidad de dengue.
Los "raidolitos" o Baygones eléctricos no afectan a estos bravos mosquitos
costeros.
2. Para el bebé lleven un bloqueador solar factor 30 ó superior.
3. También conviene llevar una cubeta especial para el baño del bebé, así
como un calentador de agua eléctrico,
de esos que se sumergen en el líquido (son muy baratos).
4. El agua para tomar y preparar biberones no es problema, ya hay dotación
constante a las tiendas de Zipo de
agua de beber embotellada ("Cristal" o "Risco").
5. Si de todas formas pican los moscos, conviene llevar loción de Caladryl's
y/o Vick Vaporrub para calmar la
picazón. No dejen que el bebé se rasque, se pondrá peor la picadura.
6. Definitivamente NO lleven exceso de ropa para el bebé, pues hace mucho
calor, pero si conviene llevar un
juego de sus sábanas, así como sus propias almohadas y algunos juguetes. Un
porta-bebé no está de más, sobre
todo al estar en la playa.
7. No lleven carreolas ni andaderas ni nada metálico, pues el salitre afecta
severamente este tipo de aparatos.
Mi experiencia con el bebé, salvo las picaduras de mosquitos fue magnífica, de hecho, tanto mi esposa como yo
queríamos que esta fuera la playa donde mi "peque" conociera el mar, y él no
nos defraudó, pues estuvo muy a gusto.
Tenemos pensado regresar en Julio (el día 8 saldremos para allá), pero me
gustaría ensayar la ruta de la sierra.
Necesito saber si alguien que la recorrió recientemente puede contactar
conmigo para hacerme algún comentario.
Saludos.
Loco Guillermo
También conocí a Alvaro, un dirigente de los salvavidas voluntarios
que cuidan a lo visitantes que nos adentramos en las aguas del mar de
Zipolite. Alvaro también es un pescador único, gracias al cual pudimos
disfrutar de verdaderos manjares del mar.
Año Nuevo lo pasamos con Luis, quien está viviendo en casa del Chido
en lo que termina de reconstruir su casa que fue destruida por Paulina.
Luis vende unos Batiks hermosísimos estampados en tela. Gracias a Luis
tuvimos una fogata poca madre para recibir 1998.
De regreso a la civilización pensé: ¡Qué melancolía! ¿por qué tuvimos
que abandonar el paraiso? Ahora sé que la melancolía podría ser la
añoranza de volver al "Zipolite" que todos llevamos dentro. Ese rincón
donde puedes encontrar una puerta para salirte por un momento del
sistema. Una vez que has visitado tu "Zipolite" interno, regresas al
sistema capaz de criticarlo hasta el hartazgo.
Todos los mexicanos, todo el mundo, deberíamos de visitar Zipolite más
seguido, para disfrutar de esta puerta de salida y regresar a la vida
cotidiana, con el placer de haber estado en el paraiso por un momento.
Por favor hagan llegar estos saludos a todos estos amigos de Zipolite.
Cuidemos mucho a Zipolite para que no caiga en lo convencional.
Rafael Núñez
Zipolite ha sido el lugar donde dio inicio un libro que estoy escribiendo referente a la astronomia, pues en varias ocasiones he dado platicas en la playa con ese impresionante cielo estrellado.
Sergio De Los Santos
Natasha
Mal L Shaw
Roberta Marini
Highway175 Update
I was in Zipolite from the 1st to the 18th of April and I really enjoyed it, but as people on your web site say: it's too crowded. Mazunte is a much more peaceful place to stay... Anyway, I was travelling by bus, but in Oaxaca I met two German guys with a rental car, who took me with them to Zipolite. So I saw highway 175, it's quite an experience.
xaperc@hotmail.com
Vienna/Austria
June 1998Missing Person: Jonathan Crane
Last seen : at the, futbol field
FOUND
staying at the south part of zipolite with an indian friend named Yogi,
an artist. He has not returned to the U.S.A. Went fishing every day. Drives a small
blue pick-up with Vermont plates, If any one has seen Jonathan Crane please
send E-mail To:
May 30, 1998Has Anyone Seen Jen Reed?
Last March, my 20 year-old daughter, Jen Reed, a college student from the University of California in Santa Cruz decided to take off to cruise Mexico with a Danish friend of hers by the name of Jaime aboard a '97 Plymouth.
FOUND
CREEDINCA@AOL.com
Cecilia.Reed@us.coopers.com
April 22, 1998Jen Reed Found
For all those wondering what actually did happen to Jen Reed, I got this
email from her mother after offering to ask around on my trip to
Ziploite in a several weeks. DW
Subject: Re: Any info on your duaghter?
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 23:19:26 EDT
From: CREEDINCA
To: wildav@studmail.stcl.edu
Cecilia
May 8, 1998Sticky Fingers at the Palapa Kiko
I just wanted to relate an experience I recently had in Zipolite.
San Diego, CA
tadcom@home.com
April 19, 1998Zipolite Update
Both Piña Palmera and Zipolite have greatly recovered from the hurricane
damage, although there are warnings that more hurricanes are to come this
rainy season that starts in May and lasts until October.
Director, Piña Palmera
pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
April 1998Un Amor Perdido en Zipolite [A Lost Love in Zipolite]
Despues de ir a Zipolite ninguna playa me complace igual. La ultima
vez que fui fue antes del huracan en agosto 97. Recuerdo que ademas de
las bellezas naturales conoci a un chavo llamado Omar de México d.f., al
que no he vuelto a ver desde entonces ,ya que olvidamos darnos nuestra
dirección. Lo único que recuerdo de el, es su gusto a la música
autóctona y al tocar su tambor; también una banda pequeña que ataba a su
cabeza. Tal vez todo esto es muy cursi, pero al recordar el sonido y el
aroma de Zipolite regresan esos recuerdos instantaneamente. Zipolite es
hermoso, realmente hermoso.
jessca44@yahoo.com
Guadalajara, Jalisco
Abril 1998Greetings from Heather
Wierd. I was just thinking about the old days in Zipolite and decided
to plug it in to a search engine. I was thrilled to actually see that
there were two sites on Zipolite~playa de la muerta. I first found out
about Zipolite while visiting Puerto Escondido, while on break from
school in Cuernavaca. I was in Puerto Escondido with a large group of
college students, and quite frankly I was getting a little fed up. I
met Alvaro and Rodrigo from Chile and Annie from England. They invited
me to get away from the people I came with for the day. I ended up
staying 2 weeks and got back to school a bit late. I couldn't leave the
place. I met this guy Dave from England that was living in the flat
above Posada San Cristobal and slept on his floor for a week. A little
uncomfortable, but I woke up staring right out at the ocean every day.
I went there with 35 pesos (only planning on staying a day) and still
made it. I went back every year after that for five years. And every
year, I met a lot of the same people, and a lot of new people. I've
always been kind of protective of Zipolite. I would never want to see it
infested by tourists. I feel like it's my own private paradise.
Unfortunately, I haven't returned in 3 years, but would love to go back
again soon. Greetings to everyone I met there.
Minneapolis/Madison
hezboo@itis.com
April 1998Viajar con Bebé
Aquí estoy de nuevo para compartir las experiencias del último viaje a Zipo.
Como comentan en tu sección de
cartas, la playa está bien y todos los servicios están funcionando. No ha
subido nada de precio, el hospedaje con
Lino (posada Lola's) cuesta lo mismo que cuando fui en Enero del año
pasado, la comida sigue siendo excelente, abundante y barata.
Carlos S. Castillo Cruz.
cuquin1@prodigy.net.mx
Orizaba, Ver.
Marzo 1998Back in the Old Days
I really enjoy the pictures of the Oaxacan coast. I first visited
Puerto Angel in 1976 and returned every year until 1980. In 1996 I returned
and couldn't believe the changes, especially in Zipolite. When I first went
to Zipolite you had to know the way by trail over the mountain, once in Zip
there was nothing there only a palapa or two. We slept on the beach and at
that time you had to tie everything to your body if you wanted to wake up
with it the next morning. Mainly I lived in Puerto Angel, I lived on the
side of the hills at a place called Don Enriques, and I made friends with a
lady named Marianne Lopez Stein and her mama Tomasa. I also got to know
her brother Jorge and her 4 young daughters. On one visit I had everything
stolen and Marianne gave me most of the Pesos she had, it was a jester I'll
never forget. When I returned in 1996 I found Marianne and met Laura, who
was 4 the last time I saw her but was now 21 with a 2 year old son. I had a
great visit with Marianne, her family, and Jorge and his family. I've kept
in touch since and if possible I want to make it down there this year,
maybe soon. I'll have to admit I liked Zipolite better in the old days, so
now after the storm maybe it'll look more familiar, but I really do feel
bad for the people, because I'm well aware of their hardships.
william@texramp.net
February 1998Zipolite¡Te Amo!
Por primera vez te conocí en Diciembre pasado (1997). Me sentí ¡libre!
¡libre! ¡libre!. Tuve la suerte de conocer a Don José "el dueño del
risco" que conecta con la playa del amor, se ha ido adueñando de ese
lugar en razón de vivir en él. Qué fortuna conocer un jipi
sobreviviente. Una vez más sobrevivó, esta vez al huracán Paulina.
atándose en un palo, protegido por el mezcal que estaba ingiriendo (una
bebida alcóholica de poder que bebían los antiguos en ceremonias
sagradas y sobrevivir a un huracán es una ceremonía sagrada). Don José
vió cómo el viento se llevaba su casa y desde lo alto observaba cómo
Paulina arrasaba Zipolite. No dudo que otras veces el sistema también ha
querido destruirlo y ha tenido que hacer cosas similares para evitar el
exterminio.
Un mexicano más
rafanune@mex1.uninet.net.mx
Febrero 1998La Celebracion del Año Nuevo
Zipolite es un lugar extraordinario en el que he encontrado grandes amigos, siempre que he ido a zipolite voy a la casa de Gloria o Shambala que es un lugar donde llega gente maravillosa, en Shambala es muy importante la celebracion del año nuevo que se realiza en la loma de la meditacion, los que deseen participar deben estar en los preparativos desde una semana antes, se les pide a los participantes que lleguen con ropas blancas y sin haber ingerido alcohol; la ceremonia es muy emotiva y se las recomiendo a los viajeros.
Mexico D.F.
smsantos@mail.intranet.com.mxZipolite is OK
I have just returned from Zipolite a few days ago(Jan 19). Before
traveling there I was told that it was not worth the trip because the
hurricanes had left the place in a horrible state. I decided to go
there anyway. This was my first trip to Zipolite and, unaccustomed to
what it may have been, I found it a delightfully unique place with no
shred of commercialization to be found. Perhaps this was because of the
hurricanes but with all respect to the losses of the families who live
there, the hurricane may have returned the beach to the same state that
it once was. From the beach you would never know anything had happened
but beyond that there is considerable rubble. I would hate to know that
Zipolite was once a seedy commercial tourist trap. [No, not Zipolite. -Tom]
Point is- despite the hurricane Zipolite is OK.
natashacass@hotmail.com
January 1998Anybody Going to Zipolite?
I didn't get to make the trip to the above after Christmas; trip got
canceled. Still plan to go sometime. Do you have any groups or other informal
parties going down there that could be joined?
MalLShaw@aol.com
January 9, 1998Looking for brother in San Augustinillo
My name is Marini Roberta,
I live in Italy (City: San Donà di Piave - Venezia)
E-Mail: roberta@ronchiato.it
I'm searching for my brother MARINI Alessandro, 31 years old, he's living in S.
Agustinillo, but I haven't his address.
Can you help me to find him?
I have only fax-number 958-43070 but I don't know who belong.
Thank You
roberta@ronchiato.it
December 29, 1997Shambhala Newsletter
Vol 5, Issue 1. Gloria Hope Johnson reports on storm damage to the Shambhala and requests assistance.Damage Report
I just got back from Zipolite last week. Although this was my sixth
trip to the beach I found various parts of it unrecognizable. Most of
the establishments are closed and are undergoing repairs due to the
severity of Pauline and Rick. The local people seem in good spirits,
though. Everyone, is working hard in order to get the place up and
running in time for the holidays.
What's up and what's not...
La Choza, Tao, La Pacheca and Emmanuelle (to name a few) are all down. People are working diligently around the clock in order to re-open, but sadly what's going up is concrete and rebar, and not the grass huts that used to line the entire beach. These buildings are definitely an eyesore and take a lot of the charm out of Zipolite.
Lyoban, Posada San Cristobal and Roca Blanca are some of the few places that are currently operating. These places were very busy during my stay due to the lack of options. The food is still very good but prices have gone up some. I believe they may go down as soon as there is some more competition later on in the month.
La Puesta and 3 de Diciembre are open. El Nuevo Sol is pretty much gone. Only the concrete floor remains. Lo Cósmico was closed when I was there but I heard that it was scheduled to open some time this week.
The Beach...
The actual beach was not affected by the hurricanes. I had heard rumors that half of it had disappeared into the ocean, but luckily it's still there and just as beautiful as always. Most of the palm trees are there but have obviously been affected by the weather. You can tell which way the wind was blowing by the direction they are leaning towards. Most have lost their leaves.
I went by Piña Palmera and saw a lot of damage there. Again, though, I saw some people cleaning the area and commence the rebuilding process.
I know Zipo will get back on its feet. It makes me a bit sad, however, to see what's becoming of the landscape. I am genuinely happy for the success that the locals are having but I hope greed does not lead to the demise of such a beautiful place.
I plan to go back sometime in the Summer of '98. If there's anyone out there who may be going please drop me a line. Maybe Andrew, Nadia or Danny?
Mike
San Francisco
michael_loria@yr.com
December 11,1997
Thank you for all your concerns, about the results of the Hurricanes, 'Paulina' and 'Rick', We are so blessed to be alive! Shambala's destruction is approximately 70%. All roofs or palm and some cabanas are gone. Tile roofs in repair now, with what was left to pick up. We are working everyday to prepare for your visit of our 'Offering Day Celebration' held every year. Only hamock spaces will be available and if it is possible, please bring your own tents, mosquito nets and sheets. We have bottled purified water, and the kitchen is almost together. Remember for many of you...This is your Zipolite home in Mexico.
Shambala and Zipolite need our friends, so we can rebuild your little paradise again. We have learned so very much from these hurricanes, I believe it's a living experience we can never learn from books or breathing excercizes.
Thank you again, for your interest and concern. Love, Light and Peace, Gloria
Carta abierta a Los Amigos de Shambala:
Esta 70 perciento destruido. El restautante esta listo, solo hay especacio para hamacas, triga sus propios sabanas-o-casas de campanas, por favor. Shambala es su casa en Zipolite. Y todo Zipolite ahora nesescita la ayuda en estos tiempos, cuando vienen de vacaciones. Estamos vivos.
Mandamos: Amor, Luz y Paz, Gloria y Familia Shambala
Tony and I were staying in Jerry and Marilyn Gainer's house on the beach at Playa Rincón in Mazunte, next to Hubert's place. The morning of Nov 9th we were told that Rick was coming and to be prepared by noon, three hours away. We secured our window shutters and went over to San Augustinillo to warn Tom and Maureen (from Alberta). They were tenting at Dominga's on the beach. While there, the army arrived to warn everyone...so this time there was lots of warning. Tom and Maureen moved into Gainer's place with us and we spent the afternoon playing cards, singing and generally whiled away the entire afternoon and evening waiting for Rick. During that time we still had power and were able to tune into the Pochutla radio station, for minute by minute updates of Rick. Part of the warning broadcast was in Zapotec for the people in the outlying villages that did not speak Spanish. By early evening it was raining very hard and small gusts of wind came and went . . the power also went. We were well stocked with candles so with the windows all boarded up and the door closed at least we were able to have some light.
At approx. 9PM Rick arrived. The sound was terrifying. Also, we could no longer hear the waves crashing on the beach because the wind was so loud. Good thing no one was claustrophobic. Rick huffed and puffed and tried to blow our house down just like the big bad wolf. Tom and Maureen headed up to the loft to sleep but were soon downstairs again, sleeping on mats under the table. Some of the roof had blown away and the wind upstairs was terrible. So we closed the loft hatch and feeling the drops of rain coming through the ceiling, we all slept for awhile. In retrospect, it seems strange that we were able to sleep, but we had all accepted the reality of Rick and knew that there was nothing we could do about it. We didn't even know at that point if we had a roof or not. A few hours later, it was all over. We all headed outside to see what had happened and also to find out whether or not the ocean was still 100 yards away where it belonged. Small bit of damage to the roof, a bit more of the adobe stucco gone, palm fronds everywhere, huge waves pounding the beach and sending water right up to where the small rock wall used to be. All of the liter on the beach, that had been raked up after Pauline, that had not yet been burned was again strewn about everywhere. Generally, not too much further damage suffered by anyone in that small community.
The main road through Mazunte and San Aug. were again covered in mud and the remaining potholes got a lot bigger but the road was still passable. The new roofing material in most people's yards was damaged and roofs that had been partially repaired would have to be redone. The turtle museum had been covered with huge tarps, so no further damage occurred.
Two weeks later: Mazunte and San Aug. have never looked so clean. All the mud has been removed from the road and the curbs and palm trees have been painted white. Huge work crews of locals in both communities have been working everyday from sunup to sundown. The local garbage truck is constantly being filled with the debris of both Hurricanes and also years and years worth of garbage. San Aug. even has a sidewalk on one side of the road now. People have begun to rebuild their homes with all of the new roofing material and lumber that was delivered by the truck load for several days (18 wheeler trucks, not the local pickups!) The dirt road to Rincón Beach has been widened and leveled. I spent Monday of this week painting the bottom of the palm trees at Rincón. Yes, there is still work to be done, but the last two weeks were amazing.
To all the friends that Tony and I have met in the last five years in the area: We were married at sunset on Nov. 19th in front of Gainer's casita in Mazunte at Rincón beach. We will leave the frozen North and return to the area in January for three months. See you then.
Helen McNamara (formerly Howard)
Quesnel, British Columbia, Canada
hhoward@quesnelbc.com
November 29, 1997
I am from the North of England and I met Richard (also from there originally) who at the time was building his island. I have heard that it went to sea as planned during the hurricane but that he stayed behind, I wish him the best of luck in everything that he does.
Zipolite is a nice place to waste away the summer, I never felt threatened being alone and I met so many people who looked out for me that it didn't matter. It's strange because I lost my address book on the way home and now the whole thing seems like a dream because I have no contact with the people I spent that time with. If they are reading this I hope that they will get in touch and we can meet again in the summer if they are going back... I will be.
Hannah Price
Hannah.Price@kcl.ac.uk
November 1997
Hubert L
November 1997
I am organizing the "routing to Zipolite" of these goods. I have a lead that may get us some free shipping (I don't have an answer yet on Mexicana Airlines-but still working on it), however if anybody else can offer "shipping these goods to Zipolite all at once" please contact me asap so we can immediately send this donation to Anna.
Here's Arbonne's message:
Mina,
I represent a company based in Aliso Viejo, California. We are a personal care company and have items such as shampoo, cleansing gels, facial care, lotions and vitamins. We have quite a bit a "damaged" inventory that may be of use to Pina Palmera. These "damaged" goods cannot be sold due to packaging flaws but are in perfectly good condition otherwise.
Have you been able to arrange an air shipment with Mexicana Airlines? Also, before we can make a delivery we will need a transmission from Pina Palmera that you are able to accept these items on their behalf and a transmission from them once the items are received. Just a formality.
Please let me know if these items are needed and if we will be able to make delivery.
Warmest Regards,
Joy Zimmerman
Director of Events & Programs
Arbonne International, Inc.
From: Mina Diaz de Rivera
pleiades80@hotmail.com
Gracias por sus mensajes y donaciones. Las necesidades son muchas todavia. Ya hemos pasado por dos hurracanes aunque el segundo no era tan intenso como el primero pero tambien hizo mucho daño. No hubo muertos pero la gente se desanimo mucho. Todos lo recien compuesto se rompio otra vez. El mar subio hasta la casa de Lino (restaurante Lola) y mojo todos sus cuartos. Ellos se refugiarion en un albergue. Ahora ya han regresado a su casa y estan limpiando y secando todo. Tia Maria y su familia estan bien. Luis Prado y su esposa, como muchos mas, estan tristes porque sus techos se volvieron a destruir otra vez. La familia Salinas (tio Chano, Juana y Ana Laura) estan bien. Algunas de sus casitas se volvieron a caer con el segundo huracan. El restaurante de Felipa sufrio muchisimos daños, realmente ya no existe. Lo Cosmico tambien tuvieron muchos perdidas, especialmente sus cabañas. Estan trabajando para reabrir su restaurante en Diciembre.
Zipolite necesita visitantes. Todos estan trabajando duro para volver a abrir sus restaurantes y los cuartos. Ya esta funcionando el disco La Puesta y la posada San Cristobal. Tres de Diciembre estan haciendo pizzas y tienen una cabana para rentar. Geminis estan haciendo pizzas para llevar nada mas. La Choza va a abrir pronto.
Todo esta funcionando en Pochutla; los bancos, las tiendas, los taxis, los micros, los correos y el mercado. Las carreteras se encuentran en muy mal estado pero ya hay paso a Pto Escondido y a Salina Cruz otra vez. Hotel Soraya, Villa Florencia y Hotel Puesta del Sol en Puerto Angel estan funcionando normalmente.
Si vienen a visitar esta area es importante traer sombrero, mosquiteros (pabellon), sleeping, sabanas y lampara de mano. Es bueno traer tiendas de campana porque no hay muchos cuartos para rentar.
Casi toda la gente en Zipolite y Mazunte depende de sus visitantes y ahora todos necesitan gente con mucho animo y ganas de ayudar para apoyar en la limpieza y en la reconstruccion de toda la zona. Se necesita especialmente albañiles, electricistas y mecanicos. Personas que saben dar masajes o curar en otras formas tambien hace mucha falta. Tambien necesitamos personas capacitados en horticultura que sepan hacer huertos familiares y compostas.
Si quieres obtener mas informacion acerca de esta area puedes consultar: Web page: The Pacific Coast of Oaxaca, Mexico: http://www.eden.com/~tomzap/index.html
Si quieres saber mas acerca de Piña Palmera puedes buscar en: http://palmera.webway.se o en http://www.laneta.apc.org./pina/
Bienvenidos!
Saludos de
Anna Johansson de Cano
pinapalmera@laneta.apc.org
13 Noviembre, 1997
Tambien pueden escribir a Kali Lopez de La Posada Canon de Vata en Puerto Angel: lopezk@spin.com.mx o a Hector Marcheli de Ecosolar (Mazunte) ecosolar@laneta.apc.org para obtener mas informacion.
Tom Penick
tom@tomzap.com
November 10, 1997
"Everything is normal," he said. "We had very little damage. Everything in Escondido is normal this morning, power, telephone. It is nothing like Paulina a few weeks ago."
Brian J. Larkin
Washington, DC
BJLarkin@juno.com
November 10, 1997
After packing we had a big meeting where we decided where everyone were to spend the night. All the disabled children went to Adalberto's house that since last hurricane proved itself to be a safe place. All the others decided to stay in "casa nueva" because even if we were going to be flooded again we now know that if we wait, the water-level will sink as soon as the "barra" opens. (The barra is the sand from the beach that builds up and closes the river's opening to the ocean.) Everybody is fine. Although I thought that this hurricane was scary (the noise is terrifying) others, that went through Pauline, said that this was less than half as bad. It didn't last as long either,
Carlos and Marlene lost their car in a river-bed when they tried to reach the Palmgrove last night. They escaped unharmed and we will try to save the car. It is a VW so I am sure it will survive. Many newly repaired roofs flew off again, both in the Palmgrove and everywhere else. We have no electricity as our own internal temporary installation was damaged and several electrical poles outside are close to falling down. But we do have plenty of drinking water, food and blankets since the last storm. Now I will go back to the Palmgrove to help cleaning. It looks like a garbage dump again... Love to you all and I will try to communicate as much as I can but this is keeping me buzy.
Anna
Piña Palmera
November 10, 1997
Thanks for your reply. I received an answer from Ms. Anna Johansson and she told me about my friends in Zipolite. They are okay, but their house suffered some damage (they have a hostel in Zipolite, its name is Montebello). If you know something about them through your internet friends, please let me know as soon as possible, because Anna has been very busy with the rebuilding of Pina Palmera, and I don't want to distract her.
They are Ms. Maria del Carmen Aguilar Lopez and her husband is Mr. Francisco (Luis) Prado, they live in Montebello, beside "La Choza", their home is in front of "La Puesta". If you have any more information about them, please send me a reply. Thanks a lot and I look forward to hear from you.
Regards,
Veronica Monjaras-Garcia.
monjaras.veronica_at_geimm@mlink.motors.ge.com
November 1997
My husband and I were visitors to Zipolite in February, 1996 and December, 1996. We fell in love with the area (especially the beach at San Agustín) and we are hoping to go back once more in Jan/Feb, 1998. Our goal is to eventually spend 6 months of the year there and to involve ourselves with a service project that would contribute to the local community. We are open to suggestions!?
We are interested in knowing, from travelers or those working down there, what is the condition of the TAO (especially Lorenzo and Linda) and what has happened to the restaurants on the beach in San Agustín?
Mrs. Guske
richardg@efn.org
November 1997
I thought you would like to know that Kali now also has e-mail. Her address is: lopezk@spin.com.mx I visited her and Suzanne and grandma yesterday and they are doing fine. Recuperating. Their goal is to reopen the Posada around the 15th of December. It is different. All the rooms has ocean view. In Piña Palmera the work with cleaning fallen palmtrees and other debris has advanced at a good pace. Special thanks to Shawn Spitzer and Richard Saunders that helped both the Posada and Piña Palmera come back together. In Piña we also send greetings and thanks to Eric Ulrich, Jan and Eric's crew from Oaxaca, that still are working hard in the palmgrove.
Love to you all
Anna
October 27, 1997
Conditions here are constantly improving. Tia Maria is doing fine. Her house did apparently not suffer as much damage as the rest. I am sure that you can have a good vacation here in December. Just make sure to bring mosquito-net and repellent and a hat and a good sun-screen. There is not much shadow left as many trees and palms were damaged. Bring your own bed-sheets and sleeping-bag too. Remember to drink only purified water (and to brush your teeth in purified water too.) and be careful when you eat raw vegetables.
Comunications to and from Pochutla work just fine. The banks and stores are open. Zipolite and surrounding villages now have electricty. A few restaurants like San Cristobal and La Choza did not suffer much damage and have already reopened. Others will surely open in December. La Puesta is also reopening soon. Felipa suffered severe damage, everything is gone. Shambala suffered a lot of damage too but it is quickly coming together and I am sure they will be able to receive visitors soon. Lo Cosmico lost several cabanas as well as Tres de Diciembre. Both are working hard to reopen their restaurants as soon as possible. It is harder to find a place to stay than before and a lot of beautiful thatched palm roofs are gone and replaced with asbestos or carton-sheets. The beach looks better already.
Wellcome back!
Anna
Piña Palmera
October 27, 1997
Thanks for this wonderful presentation of the coast of Oaxaca. It has been a year since I stayed in Zipolite. In late October 96 I had the time of my life because of this place. It breaks my heart to hear that our beach is destroyed by the hurricane. My friend, May Hege, and I went all the way from Norway to travel around Mexico. After a week we found Zipolite. The first night was horrible, we didn't like it at all (now I don't know why), but we ended up staying there for 9 days. Ever since I have lived in a "post-Zipolite" state. I can't get my mind off this place. The hammocks at San Cristobal where we stayed, the pan frances, the spaghetti carbonara is one thing; the blue nights at the beach drinking Dos Equis, the mysterious guy playing the bongos and the feeling of not knowing what day it is, is another thing. If people asked us what time it was, we answered "weeeell, half past friday, maybe...?". You don't need anything in Zipolite. You can just stay there.
I wonder what the people we met are doing now. Robin and Carina from Denmark, Michael and Steffen from Germany, Guy from Israel, Derek and Eric from USA, Alex from Italy, Rob and his sister from Australia. Ermanno from Italy am I still in contact with. The pictures and him are the remainings I have from Zipolite. Write to me if anybody reads this and know some of these people or if you were in Zipolite at this time! I fell in love with Zipolite. I will come back.
Yours sincerely,
Trine Merete Forfod
Norway
tforfod@hepp.uio.no
October 1997
I was reading your letters about Zipolite and I recognized some people tine was writing about and I can't seem to get through to her. I was wondering if you had her address (e-mail of course) and I would respond but if you don't well, oh well I guess. Her address on your your Zipolite Mexico page was tforfod@hepp.uio.no Any ideas?
Thanks 4 your time dude.
Wayne Allen
wwallen65@hotmail.com
December 1997
we also got an email today from the Slade Child Foundation, saying that donations have been pouring in, and giving their email and website and address for tax deductible donations (otra vez!) (checks to "Slade Foundation for Pina Palmera" will go to pp)
Please pass this and other stuff we've sent about the storm etc along your email nets...this is so amazing! the cyberspace world wide web for real in action...
thanks again, love, thorny and jane
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Received at casa colonial, oaxaca, on 10/17/97 from valerie nadeau & shawn spitzer
Report from Puerto Angel and Zipolite. All previous reports were totally inaccurate: Puerto is COMPLETELY devastated and Zipolite is destroyed (not my words)....ALL the big trees are either toppled over or de-branched....all have been stripped of leaves. It looks like a giant egg-beater did a number on the entire countryside....the destruction is really beyond belief. The Piña looks like a giant "pick-up-stick" game and the Posada now has no shade and all bugalows have ocean (bay) views. There are literally no roofs intact in this area, and the rain & wind swept everyone's possessions all over the place. The road (to get here) was not bad [they went via salina cruz] and there is lots of food and drinking water available. Electricity should be back on tomorrow....so anyway the whole gamut of human response is very evident--the neighborly love and concern, as well as the greed.
What people need here, more than anything, is physical labor-there is just SO much cleanup to do and its REAL exhausting work. However, housing is extremely short, as you can imagine, so anyone who comes should be prepared to camp.
If another truck is coming, there IS a big demand for chain saws and roof "laminas" of ANY material. Someone can go out to Rojas and get Shawn's chain saw [it wouldn't fit in their vw bug!] if there is anyone coming soon (see Luis) and a container of 2 stroke motor oil to mix with gasoline. Anna/Balbino [the wife & husband team who are the directors of Piña Palmera] said he sent those "special hacienda forms" by Estafeta. The phone might be working here very soon - we'll call you if we can (we figure this fax will save us a 20 minute phone call!) Love to you all, V&S
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Thornton & Jane Robison
Casa Colonial
Apdo. 640
Oaxaca 68000
Oaxaca, Mexico
e-mail: colonial@antequera.com
Visit our Home Page at www.mexonline.com/colonial.htm
October 18, 1997
Mi primera visita a Zipo la hice en 1995, acompañado de unos amigos demasiado conservadores (snobs) más bién, quienes no pudieron soportar el choque cultural de ver cuerpos de hombres y mujeres desnudos y, haciendo gala de su morbo pretendieron tomar fotos. Por supuesto que los nudistas (y más los que estaban en parejas) se enojaron y los persiguieron, comportándose mis amigos como auténticos nerds echando a perder mi viaje.
A raíz de lo anterior, juré que en mi próximo viaje no llevaría "colas" indeseables y lo hice solo con mi esposa en calidad de luna de miel; esto fue en enero de este año. Nos hospedamos en la Posada "Lola's", propiedad del señor Lino Ortiz. Esta posada está ubicada cerca del farallón natural de rocas que separa la playa de Zipolite de la playa del Amor.
Ni decir que los tres días que pasé en Zipo han sido los más felices de mi vida. Finalmente, después de tanto buscar, había encontrado el PARAISO, tal como lo soñe. Tanto Alma (mi esposa) como yo disfrutamos de tomar el sol, yo totalmente desnudo y ella en "topless" debido a su estado de embarazo (andaba por el quinto mes).
El hospedaje fué magnífico, pagamos $100.00 pesos por dia en cuarto con baño propio, ventilador de techo y mosquiteros, a escasos 30 pasos de la playa más hermosa que mis ojos habían visto jamás. La comida excelente y barata. Hicimos amistad con un huesped austriaco del Sr. Ortíz llamado "Charlie", quien ya tenía cerca de 4 meses viviendo y disfrutando de la playa.
La belleza de los escenarios naturales de la playa era un marco perfecto para las bellezas femeninas que tomaban el sol. Tanto Alma como yo nos dimos permiso de "taquear" con los ojos, pues creemos que ver no es pecado y, siendo que también estabamos desnudos y que nuestras miradas siempre fueron discretas considero que no hubo problema.
Desgraciadamente, antes de nuestra salida puse en nuestro equipaje un filtro solar bajo, dado que mi piel es un tanto delicada al tercer dia ya podía tomar el sol, pues ya estaba muy quemado, así que no hubo más remedio que seguir nuestro paseo hacía Puerto Escondido, no sin antes hacernos la promese de que regresariamos a Zipo en cuanto nuestro Bebé tuviera 8 meses o más.
Habíamos planeado (y acariciado) el viaje para el 25 de Enero de 1988, pero de una manera cruel la naturaleza se ensañó con mi PARAISO, destruyendo sus posadas y dejando sin casa a mucha gente. Como de costumbre, el gobierno mexicano se preocupa de los RICOS, y de inmediato surtió ayuda a ACAPULCO, ignorando lo que en lugares como ZIPOLITE había pasado.
Hasta el dia de ayer nos pudimos comunicar con el Sr. Ortíz, quien nos comenta que convirtió su pòsada en albergue, que necesita ropa, zapatos, leche en polvo, linternas y baterías, cerillos, velas, medicamentos, etc. Estoy haciendo una colecta entre mi familia para enviarle por mensajería un pequeña ayuda, no puedo hacer más por el momento, pero, si algún otro mexicano como yo, amante de Zipo lee esta colaboración, le invito a hacer lo mismo, ya que si se enviara la ayuda al centro de acopio es posible que esta se destinara a otro lado.
Carlos S. Castillo Cruz
cuquin1@prodigy.net.mx
October 1997
I need to add to people who are concerned with the conditions of relatives. Both people I checked on were AOK. Shambala is there and coming back together. Richard's Island floated away as he planned. (He wasn't on it at the time; he's in San Francisco. The lady selling the woven roots is still here, so is her friend John. San Cristobal, La Choza are rebuilding and look good soon. I'd live there now, and may later. Shambala is not a shambles. Gloria and the birds and dog and her friends had a harrowing time. Three women and a baby, trying to hold onto a roof. They finally ran for it. And made it. The books are OK.
Lots of fugatas every night. During the day it hurts my eyes. Texas Baptist Mens' Groups were here to work on water purification in the distant villages. I went to the airport to get tickets to LA for four weeks and I met these guys, and made a note of the many tractor trailers in the lot. It looks like a truck stop in the desert of the Western US. Lots of great response to the needs of the area. Hard to detail the details. But I was impressed. Also by all the guys with guns. There was highway patrol, traffic police, army, marines, regular police, state police. It got too confusing. But they had guns. I think everyone was very polite to each other during this whole event.
There have been effective people contacting through email. I don't think its appropriate to name you. But you have made a difference. People are arriving now to help out in the reconstruction. Bring a tent. I wonder if Herb Cain felt this way. There was no place that escaped serious damage. If you loved a place, project, or idea here, I suggest you support it.
Volunteers getting soaking wet while cleaning out the cocina with a hose from the working water pump. I know there was an incorrect phone number for Slade Children Fund, I will get that dealt with by this printing. For the next week, ending on Wed. I will try to get out as much information as I can. It gives me a chance to meet people I hadn't met. Signing off until I get more juice, David Grant
It's morning, Eric, Jan and a bunch of folks from Oaxaca arrived and are beginning to sort out the electricity, redo roofs. They brought a pickup and young men are gathering up broken branches and basura and carting it away. It rained last night, and we need to figure a way to shelter the equipment that has been brought outdoors for cleaning and drying. The water at Piña looks pretty clean now.
Things are beginning to roll at Piña thanks to your help. I will be returning to LA next Wed. I hope to have a tape of short clips of the work at Piña before and after the event. If you have contacts with the media, I would like to share the Piña experience during the four weeks I'm in LA and try to rally more support in this way. Talk to you all later.
David Kendall Grant, M.S.Ed, Ph.D. Candidate
The Program of International Development/Intercultural Education
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
School of Education
Department of Educational Policy, Planning and Administration
E-mail: dgrant@scf.usc.edu
URL: http://www-scf.usc.edu/~dgrant
S-Mail: c/o CAI Pina Palmera, Apartado Postal 109, Pochutla, Oaxaca, Mexico
70900.
October 16, 1977
ATENCIÓN: NO QUEREMOS TIRAR ESTA OPORTUNIDAD, QUE EL SOL HOY NOS DA!! NUESTRA TIERRA NO SE VENDE!! NO QUEREMOS DOLLARES (dolores) AQUÍ!! NO QUEREMOS OTRA CONQUISTA!!! PORFAVOR!!! AHÍ ESTÁ CANCUN GRINGOS, :ES SUYO!!! NO NOS VEAN COMO EXTRANJEROS EN NUESTRA PROPIA TIERRA!!!!
VENGAN, VEAN, DISFRUTEN, PERO NO TRATEN DE CAMBIAR LAS COSAS AQUÍ, COMO SI ESTÁ FUERA SU TIERRA, PORQUE ESTÁ NO ES SU TIERRA!
Hoy tenemos la esperanza de que todo puede volver a empezar...
Ricardo
un Oaxaqueño mas
redes@hermes.uninet.net.mx
October 1997
David Parks
Nova Scotia, Canada
viajerofeliz@hotmail.com
October 1997
Accommodations.
I have always stayed at the various huts that line the beach. The first time I stayed at Lyoban. The next couple of times I stayed at La Choza and the last time I was there I stayed at La Pacheca. La Choza used to be my favorite place but it seems to be getting too big and too commercial (I was there last in January '97). La Pacheca was fun. If you've been to Zipolite you probably know where I stayed. There is a small elevated room next to the bar at La Pacheca that you have to climb up to on a ladder. It looks kind of like a rustic lifeguard shack. The prices are still good, (40 pesos a night or about five dollars).
Great Places to Eat.
Lo Cosmico: At the end of the beach, before you get to Shambala you are at Lo Cosmico. Walk up the dark side of the mountain (it's more fun at night), follow the torches up to a landing and hang out. Specialties are crepes. They are yummy. Wash them down with a beer. The view from Lo Cosmico in the daytime is the best.
Nuevo Sol: Good place for late night snack since most of the restaurants close rather early. Pizzas are good (they are made in a clay oven). Again, wash them down with beer.
Mezcal
You may be scared at first but the best mezcal is sold in the little stands that line the road up by La Choza and 3 de Diciembre. Get a gallon for about two dollars. You have to bring your own bottle though. Get one and hang at one of the tables. Drink with a friend or someone who you just met and watch the sun go down.
My plan is to return for a few days sometime around Thanksgiving. It's hard for me to go very often since I now live in San Francisco. Is anyone going to be there around that time. Please share your stories. I would love to hear from you.
Mike
michael_loria@yr.com
July 1997
This is the first time that I will be traveling that far into Mexico. If anyone has any info to contribute on this area it would be appreciated. I am going alone if I have to but would prefer to have a companion along.
Denton (Denny)
drjordan@ns1.iswt.com
July 1997
Now lets get to what scared me in Zipolite: The dogs. I hated all those yellow , one of a kind, scared and mean dogs. They are all over Mexico. The locals throw sand at them and they cower and growl. Mean and scared is a bad combination any way you look at it. Also, and very rightfully so, the surf. It was Killer. Four people drowned while I was there. I understand they now have lifeguards. Last, and in no ways least are the bug bites. The mosquitoes were not even touched by the three different repellents I brought. I also had to shake my clothes out every day to make sure there were no scorpions in them. There is a fly in Zipolite that comes from nowhere and like a kamikaze divebombs you and can take out a chunk which I still have a scar from.
Now, all that aside, I love Zipolite! After 3 days of the above horror I woke up and found paradise. The bugs no longer considered me an outsider (the food took care of that), the Mad dogs backed off, and the Mescal worked its magic. My days were spent in wonderland. The rains washed everything away. Those wonderful huge butterflies that were black with a bright pink spot hovered by the hundreds at the rain puddles. Those leafcutter ants (the ones that carry a big leaf part on their back) marched by the thousands over my path to the beach. My Indian friends back from the beach smoked big red ants and made salsa. I ate the best black beans and rice I ever had. There was a big gray bird with a long feathered tail that flew through the jungle without a sound. The rains poured and that red earth turned to jungle before my eyes. There was no electricity anywhere when I was there. The rains washed out the road to Gloria's the day I left. I carried my bags out on my head to cross the flooded roads. I caught a ride on the back of a chicken truck since the buses weren't running due to the rain. I arrived in Huatulco drenched and caught a plane to Mexico City. It was there in the comfort of my Ramada Inn that I found out a hurricane had passed the pacific coast.
And the people were wonderful. I especially hooked up with the the locals since I lived with a local for 6 weeks. But I really enjoyed just sitting at the posada (freshly raked) by day sipping coffee or whatever and watching the international freak show. Nothing mean intended as I loved all my conversations with all these people. It seems that the Europeans seemed to adjust to the environment better. Mexico is a wonderful Paradox. The grand Beauty and the Terror. Love that place!
Cyndy
CYNDY2MOON@webtv.net
June 1997
By day I would sit in my hammock and just observe the crowd or body surf the waves at the west end, at night the beach came alive. I sometimes wonder what has become of my friends from Zipolite. Some of them I ran into later in Guatemala & Honduras and I still get letters from them occasionally with foreign postage stamps, the rest I can only recall from pictures. I fell in love twice in Zipolite and I must admit the place rocked my world.
The Zip Rips.
Kevin J. McNeill
Chicago, IL
kmcneill@datalogics.com
May 1997
Rate of exchange: $1 Canadian = 5.7p   $1 U.S. = 7.9p
Transport:
Collectivo from the Airport to Acapulco Bus from Acapulco for Puerto Escondido Bus from Puerto Escondido to Pochutla Taxi from Pochutla to Zipolite (please take the Collectivo it's just Collectivo from Zipolite to Puerto Angel Bus from Pochutla to Oaxaca Bus from Oaxca to Pochutla (first Class) Bus from Pochutla to Acapulco Collectivo from Zipolite to Pochutla |
38p 78p 10p 40p 3p) 3p 45p 55p 92p 3p |
Cheap hotel in Acapulco "La Mama Helena" Tent in Zipolite at "La Posada Brisa Marina" Cabanas in Zipolite with double bed at "Tao" Good Hotel with double bed and shower |
60p 10p 50p 200p |
Breakfast dish Fresh Fruits dish Fish dish Other dish Pastry in Pochutla (very very good) |
10p 25p 28p 15p 1p |
Cafe Beer Pina-Colada Pepsi Fresh Juice (very good. banana, orange, carrot, beet) Bottle of water Cigarettes Hammock |
3p 5p 14p 3p 5p 5p 10p 130p |
Transport Lodging Food and drinks Gifts Others |
170 $Can 149 $Can 320 $Can 214 $Can   48 $Can |
Patrick Bergeron
pat@behaviour.com
May 1997
Rubén Héctor Chanes Ortiz
chanes@telnor.net
April 1997
I spent some time in Puerto Angel-Zipolite and some time outside Puerto Escondido. I had a car rented and really got to explore. I got to know Gloria's (of Shambala) brother, Danny, and he took me hiking to some property they have in the mountains where these rivers meet in the middle of the jungle. The scenery and swimming was awesome.
I got to know some wonderful folks. Hung out with some of the people who live out on the barrier beach of the Manialtepec lagoon (Puerto Suelo). These people are really caught in the middle; on the one hand, the ecologists rightly want to preserve the lagoon, but these people (many of them descendants of shipwrecked slaves) who have lived here for a few hundred years are now considered squatters. They have very few means to earn the currency they need to buy cornmeal. Do you know of anyone who is trying to help them? I would love to get involved. We "first world" people use (and waste) so many of the world's resources; it's seems so unfair that people who have lived in harmony with the land now have to bear the burden of conserving what little we haven't yet squandered.
Joan
martoraj@erols.com
March 1997
DO SOMETHING TO KEEP ZIPOLITE AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE.
In the 70's there was nothing but some palapas (huts) at Zipolite town beach (for the new ones this is at the east end), afterwards some hippies came to stay there and built up Shambala (or Gloria's House) and Lo Cosmico (or Antonio's house) and others like Pina Palmera etc. There were really good-vibes_hare-hare_flower-power_non-violence atmosphere places and the people wanted to stay just there. That's why they started to rent hamacas and so on...
Nowadays I wonder how those hundreds of people manage to handle the trash and sewage and all pollution. And what about all the trees and bushes that disappear by making new palapas and FIRES every night!
Its time to think about Zipolite's environment! If we want to have a place to enjoy a cheap and cozy holiday we have to clean up after ourselves. Don't leave your shit there because none of the people up there are going to move a finger for it. Its not worth the effort for the few pennies that you spent.
Mario
sunyam@algonet.se
March 1997
I enjoyed your comments on the stay at Huatulco. Having known Puerto Angel and environs for over 20 years, I understand you disappointment in the deterioration and in the build-up at Zipolite. Next time you're down, why don't you try San Augustinillo and Mazunte, just a short ride up the coast beyond Zipolite? The lagoon at San Augustinillo is one of the prettiest ACCESSABLE spots on that part of the coast. Mazunte just past the turtle museum will remind you of the Zipolite you remember. And if you really want to get away from it all, La Ventinilla is just beyond Mazunte, and you can walk over six hours without coming to the end of the beach! Unless it is the turtle mating season, which brings soldiers to guard the eggs, you''re likely to see few if any fellow travelers. You can easily (and cheaply) rent a buggy from Peso's Rent-a-car on the zócalo in La Crucecita to get you to any and all of these places. They're all on the road through and past Zipolite. Enjoy!
John M Williams
Isharkbait@aol.com
March 1997
I'd enjoy hearing any comments from others that enjoy Mexico, particularly San Miguel de Allende, since I want to make a trip there on my next visit to Mexico.
Barb Oshanski
CADENCENT@aol.com
Toronto Ontario
February 1997
By day I would sit in my hammock and just observe the crowd or body surf the waves at the west end, at night the beach came alive. I sometimes wonder what has become of my friends from Zipolite. Some of them I ran into later in Guatemala & Honduras and I still get letters from them occasionally with foreign postage stamps, the rest I can only recall from pictures. I fell in love twice in Zipolite and I must admit the place changed my life.
The Zip Rips.
Kevin J. McNeil
Chicago, IL
kmcneill@datalogics.com
November 1996
My friend Daniel Almanza is the manager of Gloria's Shambala. You can not miss this guy with his outgoing personality. You'll find Daniel there most of the a.m. hours taking an inventory of what is required by the restaurant. In the early afternoon, you'll find Daniel in Pochutla making the purchases necessary for Shambala. It is likely that in the afternoon, you'll find my friend Daniel working as a lifeguard on the beautiful Zipolite beaches. The guy is a workhorse that also has a penchant to party. Despite all of that work, you'll find my buddy having a good time with both locals and tourists. If you are an American football fan, make sure you have an in depth conversation with Daniel, who not only played, but understands the game more than anyone I know. Make sure that you tell him that Jason told you to look him up.
Next is my friend Mario who runs a subsidiary business of Shambala. His bar, La Crema, is located at the base of the cliff Shambala rests upon. Mario is a very accomplished musician. He knows the guitar and plays the blues with a Mexican twist unlike anything you'll encounter on your visit to Mexico. He is also an accomplished songwriter and you will hear the best Mexican acoustic blues music as you sit with strangers on that very secluded part of the Zipolite beach. Other than that, Mario is quite the entrepreneurial hellion. He and his brother opened the original La Crema in Huatulco. In addition, you'll find that Mexican pragmatic advertising (in spray paint form), for their bars in Puerto Escondido. Mario's generosity is second to none. In my ten-day visit to Zipo, Mario showed me an amazing virgin beach seven km. west of Zipo, and a hell of a good time in Puerto Escondido (where we dated the same girl). From the great place he showed me and my friends, I, being a novice snorkeler, ended up with about seven sea urchin spines in my left foot. However, I remember that amazing pool I snorkeled, that was perhaps only seen by twenty or thirty other tourists. By the way, this place is on the southernmost point of the mainland just south of Mazunte. In addition, Mario showed his ability to party on the day of Mexico's independence in Puerto Escondido (which happens to be my birthday).
There are a couple of other locals I should mention to you prospective travelers. One is a fellow who works at Shambala. His name is Ulyses. He proves to be one of the more generous guys I met while on vacation. Not only did he provide my snorkeling equipment but he and I made a trade of jewelry. He gave me a necklace wreathed with jade and an obsidian centerpiece in return for my watch (make sure you give him shit for that bad trade on his part). So should you see a decent looking waterproof watch, ask Ulyses where the hell he got it. The other guy you should look for is called Sergio. He is a skilled artisan that never pushes his work on anybody. As you know, this is quite amazing considering the touristic nature of the region and the psyche of any tourist area of trying to get money out of the tourist. I never bought any of his works (and I wish I had), but I encourage you to meet the good Sergio and get to know his very quiet personality.
I have no doubt left so much of my Zipolite experience out of this short synopsis. I can only encourage you to experience some of what I was fortunate to see. If you go there in search of nude bodies, I tell you that you'll be disappointed. I encourage you to take in the beauty of the nature and the fine people that live there.
Oh yeah, keep one thing in mind. There is plenty of scum that live there that wish to prey on the foolish tourists that visit. I ask you to seek those that I've mentioned to minimize the usual risk of travel by seeking out my friends that I've mentioned.
Jason Housel
jhousel@sprintmail.com
November 1996
I highly recommend Zipolite to anyone needing to forget about everything for a bit.
Laura Warman
lwarman@solar.sar.net
November 1996
One afternoon I met a group of chilangos [people from Mexico City] and we were talking the whole afternoon and by the evening we went to La Puesta; there we were dancing and drinking; at midnight I left them and went to sleep, on my way to the palapa I got lost and I couldn't find the way back to the beach. At this moment I was in the backyard of some palapa, suddenly a girl came out from darkness, I recognized her as a British girl who arrived to Zipolite in the same bus as me, so I asked her why she didn't catch us at La Puesta (in that afternoon she was with me and the chilangos), I commented her that we were expecting for her and she didn't know what to say, at this moment I realized that I was confusing her, I apologized and I explained to her that I was lost, so she helped me to get to the beach and then we kept talking the rest of the night. When I went to sleep it was 5 or 5:30 of the morning, but it still was dark, so I couldn't see her face when I said goodbye. Next day I don't know how I recognized her, but I spent the day and the whole night with her and next I left Zipolite.
I think that's the magic part of Zipolite, I know I won't see her again but it makes me wonder about destiny and compare it as lines that cross one on another.
If you have some question about Zipolite send me an email; by the way I'm going to be there on second week of December.
Enrique.
al165488@academ07.mty.ites.mx
October 1996
[Enrique, I couldn't get your email address to work. Please email me again so we can get this corrected. - tom@tomzap.com]
The place is like nowhere else I've ever been: beautiful, dirt cheap and peaceful. I highly recommend going to Estacahuite as well, a pair of tiny beaches facing a v-shaped cove with warm swelling water where you can snorkel for hours because the water temperature is so hot. I rented a pair of mismatched flippers and an OK mask, and stayed for about three hours in the water looking at tropical fish schools, underwater geological formations, corals, etc. At one point when I was almost entirely outside the cove I met a lobster catcher; the lobsters he was catching with his bare hands (and a small pick) were the size of crawfish, but since he suddenly appeared underwater in front of me his sudden apparition had me totally surprised. To get there you walk out of Pto. Angel on your way to Pochutla and follow the dirt road that says Estacahuite. Follow the road to the very end down to the cove. There are a couple of other palapas that serve food and probably rent out better gear than at the first where I took my business. But I was unaware until I was in the water, that next door there was another beach.
The trail behind Casa Gloria that leads to three long abandoned beaches is well worth it, but beware. I thought I was alone one afternoon when I got there (this was late September) and took off all my clothes and started running toward the water elated and thinking of Planet of the Apes when I turned around...and there was a father with a brood of four children behind me collecting seashells.
Paul De Zardain, New York
pauldz@spacelab.net
October 1996
There just isn't a lot to do in Zipolite but sit on the beach and relax but then that is why I went there. If you want more action, then take the local bus to Puerto Escondido (1 hr) for about 15 pesos. Zipolite primarily consists of numerous thatched huts that are restaurants during the day, bars in the evening, and hammock houses at night. All are open air and right on the beach so you hear plenty of waves to make you relax. Both times that I have gone to Zipolite, I have stayed at Casa Gloria, otherwise known as Shambalaha, located at the very northern end of the beach. From Gloria's there is a beautiful view of the entire beach. Nude sun bathing is also very popular at the Gloria end of the beach as well for those who are interested. Gloria also has a very recommended restaurant that serves vegetarian dishes.
What is there to do during the day. You can easily walk or catch a ride to Puerto Angel to shop or buy a fish at the pier. What I have always enjoyed is a moderate hike on a trail that starts behind Gloria's. You can inquire at Gloria's for its location as it is not easy to locate without directions. This trail will take you along some undeveloped beaches to the small quiet town of San Augustine. Keep an eye out for a trail that goes off to the left - it descends a valley to the ocean. At the ocean there are two small but very beautiful beaches that are desolate. It is the perfect place for couples in love to shed their clothes and take a swim. From these beaches, you can walk the rocks along the ocean all the way to San Augustine. On my last trip, we were surprised to run into a patrol of 7 military soldiers who politely said hello and continued on.
Speaking of the military, there has been recent activity in the state of Oaxaca by guerrillas. So far, all attacks have been aimed at the government - specifically the police and the military. It is different than the activity that occurs in Chiapas. The best advice is to use common sense. Travel during the daylight hours, with plenty of people, and take as little cash as possible. You won't need a lot of cash in Zipolite anyway - it is very economical. There have been reports of roadblocks at night and holdups on buses at night - they are reportedly only looking for money though. At this point, it should in no way deter you from traveling to this beautiful area. Enough said.
As I said earlier, I was very surprised to see how much development had occurred since I visited in 1993. In 1993 about 2/3 of the beachfront was developed - on this trip in Aug 1996 that development had progressed to about 3/4 of the beach. I would venture to say that Zipolite will be very much like Puerto Escondido within the next 5 years. With the current value of the peso, Zipolite is an extremely affordable trip as accommodations are more to the liking of us budget/adventure travelers. If you have the opportunity to go, I highly recommend it, but just don't go when I am there again!!!! If anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to drop me a line.
Paul Blevins
pmb4411@utarlg.uta.edu
pblevins@nch.com
August 1996
Joseph Paul Parker
jpparker@scf-fs.usc.edu
August 1996
We also stayed near the beginning of the beach at Palapa Pescador. The owner Alburo is one of the lifesavers (yes, those waves are wicked so be extremely careful). Alburo brought several people out of the surf while we were there. Palapa Pescador has 4 private palapas where you can stay if you're with someone special.
Along with the sun and the people, the food is great! Fresh fish every day if you want it. There are now several more restaurants and the quality of the food has increased. The prime time to visit seems to be November thru March, although it was getting pretty hot by mid March. You can reach the beach from Mexico City by either taking a bus to Pochutla (13 hours) or flying to Puerto Escondido or Huatulco, then local transport to Pochutla-Puerto Angel-Zipolite. [see Transportation] Flying is much more expensive but it sure beats a long bus ride. Overall, Zipolite is the closest thing to paradise for the low budget traveler. Once you arrive, time stops and all of your worries float away.
Have fun in the Sun!
Sincerely,
Dave Aguirre and Beth Nixon
davebeth@gte.net
June 1996
Sincerely,
Lloyd R.
drgonnab@ghgcorp.com
May 1996
Later, from locals, I discovered that Lupe's family was the family that started everything here in the early 60's. Local folklore also says that Zipolite actually means beach of Death. The story goes back hundreds of years to a time when The Spaniards would trade with local Indians. After the trading sessions it was common to have an all-out drunken fiesta. One time, however, a fight erupted between a Spaniard and a local. The Spaniards, cool-headed as they were, just up and massacred all the Indians. So bloody was it that Zipolite, beach of death, stuck throughout the centuries. Beach of Death is also fitting for a beach with a record number of drownings each year. But besides its dark past and ominous name, Zipolite is muy tranquilo. Travellers find cheap lodging, especially if you swing on a hammock, and cheap food. Most everyone there is European, and the mix of cultures is great. Nudity is normal, but definately not expected.
So if you want to experience the trip of a lifetime, go to Zipolite and discover all its secrets.
Sean Garcia
immortal@fix.net
March 1996
The prices were cheap and ideal for vacationers on a budget (I rented a cabana on the beach for 20 Nuevo Pesos a night). Strung-out along the beach, were several hut-like eating establishments that served a variety of Mexican and non-Mexican dishes.
Zipolite is not as widely known as its neighbor, Puerto Escondido (an hour to the west) and thus attracts less people, making it ideal for those who want to live in simple, less touristic surroundings.
For those of you that like to explore, there is a wooded trail that follows along the jagged coast and leads to other, almost desolate beaches. The trail goes up and down, but for the most part stays high above the ocean, providing captivating views of the Sunset and Pacific Ocean. The wooded trail can be found by following the beach until one reaches the extreme west end where there is a hill (it's covered with rented cabanas). Beyond this hill is where the trail begins.
Anyway, besides the nude bathing, bonfires, drinking and hanging out with foreigners, Zipolite was a special place to visit.
MCOLLADO1@vaxc.hofstra.edu
March 1995
My first trip to Cipolite was in the early '70s. A group from Cuernavaca headed for the beaches of Oaxaca. We stopped in Mihuatlan to watch a total eclipse of the sun. NASA and the Japanese where there as well as other official observers and a diverse contigent of flower-children from all over the world. A group of us all held hands and turned in a circle as the sun was eclipsed. As the light faded to dusk and started to return, the birds started to sing as if it where dawn all over again.
Later we contiued to the beach at Cipolite. Again there was a large group of hippies and other assorted children of the 60s. Most took to hanging out on the beach with no clothes. One time the soldiers came by to keep the peace. I remember the bemused face of one of them as this totally naked gringa put a flower in the muzzle of his rifle. They where actually pretty tolerant and just asked everyone to leave by a certain day and then they left everyone alone. Sorry to ramble on, but seeing that picture of the beach brought back so many memories. Thanks.
Daryl P. Williams
daryl@sunlabs.eng.Sun.COM
August 1995